Mail-ordering fish?

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Joel
Good/bad?

Reason I ask is, unfortunately all the great Mom/Pop fish and pet stores are pretty much gone in my area. All I have nearby is Petsmart and Petco. They're great, but selection and knowledge is less than optimum. Can plants be had this way too?

Thanks!

Joel
 
Most certainly Joel. Yes to both questions. I would say at least 95% of my fish have come by mail. The only fish stores besides petco/smart are an hour plus each way. I get ALL my plants in the mail. Out of the 150 or so fish that I have, prolly a dozen neons, a male betta, and some glass cats are the only fish I have that come locally. Good luck.
 
I'm in a rural area of Ohio and find myself in much the same situation as you, no local selection. I haven't had much luck with on-line retailers when it comes to purchasing livestock, but I have purchased lots of quality fish from sellers on AquaBid. Frank at Franks Aquarium also has some excellent fish and very reasonable shipping rates.

Many of the folks on AquaBid quit shipping during bad weather, but the selection will pick up once spring gets here. Best of luck with your search for fish!

Dennis
 
We used to have some great LFS here. Now, not so much. So the last year I started ordering from Aquabid. Just check their feedback. And most offer guarantee's. I have never had any problems!
 
I've ordered all kinds of fish and coral over the years with (mostly) good results. I can add a few tips and tricks I've learned over the years:

1. If you do order online whether its from a storefront or someplace like aquabid, double check the DOA policy in case the worst happens. Most will only replace the fish, and will only do so if there are pictures sent as proof within a certain time frame.
2. In that light, always have a camera ready when your shipment arrives-take lots of pictures of how things are packed before you start unwrapping things.
3. Have a thermometer and water test kits handy, again just in case the fish are DOA.
4. ALWAYS pay for the fastest shipping, overnight is best-I think of it as extra insurance.
5. If you can't be home to get the delivery, consider having it shipped to your workplace or somewhere else where it won't sit outside-or have it held at the Post Office.

Best of luck!
 
The more I poke around at the mail-order sites, the more I get scared off by the costs.

I realize shipping live goods isn't cheap, but from what I've seen, a few main-stream tropical fish would cost you like $60-80 all-in? That's kinda nuts. I could see it for more rare breeds you can't find locally, but other than that.. Am I missing something there?

Joel
 
shipping is usually the big cost factor.

the fish I get are often considered exotic. so they can be a bit pricey but the quality is very important.
in some cases there are issues with DOA but in some exotic species it is often a problem.
I also am lucky to have some fish stores that sell 'mail order' fairly close but still too far to drive .. they tend to have very reasonable prices.. I got groups of 6 blue rams and bolivian rams for $32 per 6 pack shipping was not a big factor due to proximity.

but my discus shipping was nearly as much as the price of the fish. ;)
 
I personally only use mail order for fish I can't find in the stores (either LFS or big box). I would never buy fish from a place like Wal Mart (really a place that sells groceries, tires, toys, etc. should not also sell fish), but I don't have issues buying from the big box stores like Pet-co or PetSmart. (I actually used to work for one). Our local Wal mart had to stop selling fish because they couldn't keep their tanks clean enough. But, at the big box stores, at least they are supposed to sell pets, and know about them. Some of the stores do a better job than others, and some workers are better than others. I used to work for a big box store. Our store (and all the others in our area) had an exclusive relationship with our fish provider. It was a very large scale breeder in FL, I think. I'm sure it served most of Our stores on the east coast. We got our fish in once a week, and our fish were on 'auto-replenish' meaning we got more fish in based upon what was currently in stock to keep us at a certain number of each kind of fish. (we used to be able to order our own fish, but that got switched to make all stores more uniform). Other than having more than *I* thought we needed of some fish that didn't always sell well, or *I* thought were inappropriate to sell, it wasn't too bad. I knew all about fish (of course), and tried to make sure the people in my department did too. I also told them that if they didn't know to find someone who did and ask rather than give out wrong information. Sometimes that worked and sometimes it didn't. Often, problems arose when they would sell whatever the customer wanted with out asking questions about their fish tank and setup. I always asked, sometimes, an experienced fish keeper would get upset, but more often than not, I would safe a few fish lives by not selling 20neons for a five gallon tank. Of course there were regulars, and I wouldn't give them the fifth degree, I'd just sell them whatever they wanted, knowing they knew what they were doing. If you get your fish from a big box store, visit it regularly. Find out when they get their fish in (it's usually the same day each week). Try to buy the day before the new fish arrive, so you know the fish have been there a whole week, and are still alive/healthy. If any fish in any tanks are sickly, wait until they all look o.k.--all the tanks are connected to the same filtration system. Talk to the fish person (likely the same person who takes care of all the other animals), see if they know about fish. Some big box stores can order special fish, some can't. (PetSmart can't but they get special fish called opportunity buys that change every three months. When it gets close to the time they change, the manager will know what the next batch of opportunity fish will be. Pet Co may be able to order special fish. Not sure about the others.) I bought fish all the time from the store I worked at, and never had a problem. I also bought from our sister stores (nearby stores of the same chain), and occasionally from our competitors. (other big boxes). I also shopped at LFS that weren't big boxes. The big box stores all have a 14 day guarantee on the fish they sell (not on fish already in the tank), so if one dies you can get it replaced or refunded if it is within two weeks. They usually require a water sample, so they will replace only if the water is good, otherwise they refund.
If you are really against buying any live fish from a big box store, then see if you have a local fish club. Members there may have fish for sale that you are looking for if they breed fish. If not, you may find someone willing to go together on a mail order, which will cut down on the shipping cost. Otherwise, since you are doing a fishless cycle, you will be able to add all your fish at once, so find a source that has all the fish you want and buy only from that place. Then, you will only have to pay shipping once.

Emily
 
I have mail ordered fish and plants; 80% of the time they have been fine. One time a bunch of amano shrimp was over packed and did not survive. A second shipment was also over packed and died. Another time a box of very nice briggs snails got too cold and died within a few days. Another-nother time I had a neighbor collect a box of Endler's from my porch in the summer (I was at work) so the fish wouldnt roast...fortunately they were fine. I learned not to ship fish if it's too cold or hot for best results..even with heat packs.

Have you tried your local fish club? http://tfcec.tripod.com/ looks like the one closest to you.

Since joining my local club I have not ordered fish by mail and have been acquiring most fish and plants from trades or club auctions. This typically gets you fish that are already acclimated to your local water conditons, and you'll have at least one person locally that is knowledgeable about them.

...and you dont have to pay shipping...


Looks like they have a big auction in Feb, too...
 
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