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Lalo J.

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TTA, oh yes we know that phrase, I don't understand why my loach started acting like that out of nowhere, both angels were cornered in a corner without coming to eat, when that happens you know there is a problem, I want to increase the capacity of my tank , and I'm working on relocating my loaches.
 

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I think you had 1 of each of 2 loach species...& they like to be kept in groups of 5 or 6 at least. I know they are hard for you to buy...& now I'm seeing your angels are not of the best kept of juvenile fish. I'm very sorry, Lalo.

I know you had friends with a shop...but now it's time to look at mail order fish maybe. Just look for now, you need some time to grieve your losses & see what other fish you might be able to get online. Read the reviews & wait. Not always a best option but just looking for now...You need a big time off from new fish...& a new source or 2.
 

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Hello fishorama, I have a kubotai loach and the other one, I don't know what species it is for sure, I posted a thread a while ago when I got it, and it's she who has become aggressive. I haven't visited my friends LFS for over a year, since they started treating me more like a client than a friend, there were a couple of details that I didn't like so I decided to distance myself. There is another LFS that is gradually displacing it with just two years of work, in fact the photograph of the Koi angelfish that I uploaded was sent by the owner. I'm analyzing how I can increase the capacity of my tank, I want more angels and more tetras, I'm thinking of installing a qt tank because I have seen several angels with red lines on the dorsal fins and on the tail, from different distributors.
 

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Like I said Lalo, wait! to make any big decisions. You want to keep angels BUT the loaches are causing problems. So, if it were me, I would rehome the loaches before trying again with angels...but those angels look like the eyes are too big for their body size (all stunted ;(). I know you have trouble buying good quality fish where you live in Mexico.

It seems I remember you had corydoras & problems (although I don't remember just what). It can be difficult here in the US to get high quality fish but we have it much easier than you do. I'm sorry, let me & others think some more on a good way forward before you buy new fish.
 

Lalo J.

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I had problems with Corydoras loxozonus, they never adapted, they just started dying one day one by one, I tried it only a couple of times, and I haven't seen them available since then. I have no plans to add fish at this time, I only have a 25 gallon tank, maybe 27, so I have to figure out how to increase the capacity, I'm going to relocate the loaches and they will not be with my future angels and my tetras, either, I would like to hook up a large tank (very large if possible), a sump and a very large container for my loaches and maybe larger fish that are compatible, I'm taking a look at the 300 gallon Rubbermaid containers, and thinking how to connect all that is what I focus my attention on, and a separate QT tank.
 

Lalo J.

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A while ago I analyzed the idea of making a plywood tank, however I was researching and watching videos on how to do it, I abandoned the idea after seeing the sealing methods inside the tank, I have no experience with epoxy paint and even less working with fiber glass which is not for everyone, but the idea was tempting.
 

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My yoyo hasn't harrassed my angles in 5 years but one of my clown loaches went after a weak angel and started eating it alive. I've noticed that even with pleco if they get weak or sick other fishes will start eating it. I currently have in my 550 5 angel fishes; 13 clown loaches; 5 yoyo and 10 zebra and they don't harrass cross species as long as the fishes are healthy. The yoyo i've had for around 4 years and are adults - even when the angels breed the loaches leave them and their eggs alone but the festum will eat the angels eggs (they used to be in a 4ftx2ft box (120) but are now in a 10ftx4ft (550) box. The angels tend to stay together in the back corner near me (my desk is a couple of feet from one end) and the festum on the other side - during the day most of the loaches stay in natural cave - basically under rocks and drift wood but at night usually the yoyo runs around and collect them so they can glass surf as a group.
 
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