Comparing a BMW to a Buick is apples and oranges. More like golden apples to nasty old out of season oranges you get in your stocking at Christmas. Of course the BMW performs better when compared to a Buick.
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125gJoe said:
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i'm hoping there will be a trend not only to small cars (honestly i dont like small cars, i miss having a pickup and i would love a 4 door pickup)...but to more hybrids as well. i was impressed by the Honda and Toyota hybrids. if they come up with a hybrid truck that would make my day. they have the Ford Escape hybrid but it has so many bugs/glitches...but it is a step in the right direction.
size does matter....ever tried to cram four adults into a honda civic?
or take 3 60 lb dogs to the vet in a nissan sentra?
Yeah, also...
Ever tried to live through a crash with an 5,000 pound SUV in your 2,900 pound gas sipper?
I like cars and probably won't ever own an SUV, but there is no way I'll regularly drive my family at highway speeds in a car that weighs less than 4,000+.
And BTW I average 23.6 MPG with combo driving and 26.5 straight highway.
Ever tried to live through a crash with an 5,000 pound SUV in your 2,900 pound gas sipper?
I like cars and probably won't ever own an SUV, but there is no way I'll regularly drive my family at highway speeds in a car that weighs less than 4,000+.
And BTW I average 23.6 MPG with combo driving and 26.5 straight highway.
Joe, as much as I hate to say it, even when gas hits $3-4 a gallon, people will still be buying gas hogs. Gas here is almost $3 a gallon and I see more and more big rigs and gas guzzlers than ever before. America is spoiled and they (for the most part) will always try to keep up with the Jones's (sp).
I drive a 91 mazda pick up with 185,000 miles on it. :joe:
Now, what really blows me away is these kids that are driving around new big rigs that they are paying $500+ car payments on.
I drive a 91 mazda pick up with 185,000 miles on it. :joe:
Now, what really blows me away is these kids that are driving around new big rigs that they are paying $500+ car payments on.
It's heartbreaking, but I am finally getting rid of my '85 Toyota pickup. I have literally lived in that car, and it always looked cool parked next to the Jaguars in Bethesda.Dale W. said:
Hafta say that the new Jetta's a lot of fun, though.
I realize some/most rich people would not be affected by gas prices, but the majority would be in my opinion. And, I think there will be a trend to buy small cars. The prices of these cars will increase - big time. I hope to get one before the price gouging starts!Dale W. said:
mvigor said:
yeah, my gf has a honda civic hatchback. it's smaller than my car.
on the highway, it gets blown around by the semis when they pass. and pretty much so if you get hit, you're lucky to survive. the sentra is as small as i'll ever go. i feel safer in it than the civic. it's higher off the ground and it's heavier. not by much though.
the jettas are fun to drive, but a nightmare to maintain. parts are expensive and unfortunately VWs arent that reliable.
if you want a small car, check out Honda or Toyota. and if you cant afford that, then look at Nissan. Nissan is cheaper and you might sacrifice some luxury but they're good quality cars.
I guess it all depends on what you want to do. When it comes down to it, I need a vehicle that will tow tremendous weight- I frequently haul a 10k lb. boat (among other various equipment) around the state. I need 4x4 and larger tires (not HUGE tires, but sand will eat your lunch, and water in motors isn't good from what I understand). I take quite a few people with me as well. You try going on road trips with 4 other men, various retrievers and enough hunting equipment for 2 days in an econo box. Finally, safety IS an issue and height and weight DO come into consideration. I'm a survival of the fittest kind of guy and if it comes down to me or him, I would rather have the heavier, higher vehicle.
I recently had a girl run into me at a red light in her little civic. The front of her car crumpled and my trailer hitch poked a hole in my hood. Final tally: Ford- no damage Civic- considerble damage.
Another example- When I had my Bronco (9 mpg city, 11 mpg hwy: Even I'll admit this was a little rough on fuel), a woman ran into me traveling approx. 25 mph HEAD ON! She veered from her lane of traffic and hit me. Her car slid under mine. My front differential was on the front of her hood. Her motor mounts broke. I needed a new front bumper and pittman arm. Had I been in a car of equal size, who knows what could have happened.
I guess we do things differently. I have a truck that can drive through 4 feet of water and a boat that can run on dry ground (literally). You can call us rednecks, hillbillies, hicks or whatever you want. However, everything serves a purpose and if it can be afforded, let it be done.
I recently had a girl run into me at a red light in her little civic. The front of her car crumpled and my trailer hitch poked a hole in my hood. Final tally: Ford- no damage Civic- considerble damage.
Another example- When I had my Bronco (9 mpg city, 11 mpg hwy: Even I'll admit this was a little rough on fuel), a woman ran into me traveling approx. 25 mph HEAD ON! She veered from her lane of traffic and hit me. Her car slid under mine. My front differential was on the front of her hood. Her motor mounts broke. I needed a new front bumper and pittman arm. Had I been in a car of equal size, who knows what could have happened.
I guess we do things differently. I have a truck that can drive through 4 feet of water and a boat that can run on dry ground (literally). You can call us rednecks, hillbillies, hicks or whatever you want. However, everything serves a purpose and if it can be afforded, let it be done.
the last post on the car vs bronco and civic vs ford truck deal is not exactly fair....
If you take any "bigger" height or weight vehicle and put it against a smaller lower weight vehicle the little bitty thing is going to be eaten for lunch...
If you drive a honda civic into a buick century the civic will be eaten for lunch because the buick weights about 1000 lbs more
If you drive a civic into a truck or SUV the civic will be eaten for lunch...
you drive a buick into a truck at all lighter or heavier and the buick will likely be eaten for lunch... the only chance a buick would have in this case is due to the weight if it hit a lighter truck that the truck would end up rolling over.
HOWEVER if you drive a truck into another truck then you will get a normal civic vs civic level of damage typically...
Also if you drive a small truck or SUV (blazer, s10, etc) type small truck into a 60's or 70's car the truck will be eaten...
If you take any "bigger" height or weight vehicle and put it against a smaller lower weight vehicle the little bitty thing is going to be eaten for lunch...
If you drive a honda civic into a buick century the civic will be eaten for lunch because the buick weights about 1000 lbs more
If you drive a civic into a truck or SUV the civic will be eaten for lunch...
you drive a buick into a truck at all lighter or heavier and the buick will likely be eaten for lunch... the only chance a buick would have in this case is due to the weight if it hit a lighter truck that the truck would end up rolling over.
HOWEVER if you drive a truck into another truck then you will get a normal civic vs civic level of damage typically...
Also if you drive a small truck or SUV (blazer, s10, etc) type small truck into a 60's or 70's car the truck will be eaten...
Another aspect to the vehicle I drive: The average diesel vehicle will be roadworthy for somewhere in the neighborhood of 500,000 miles. If you figure that the AVERAGE gas powered car is roadworthy for 150,000 miles (some more, some less), my truck will outlive the average car 3:1. This means that the overall efficiancy of the vehicle is MUCH higher than the average gas-powered car. After all, junk cars do go somewhere after they're done/worn out.
