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I read a little bit into saltwater tanks and from what I've found is that you don't need a filter, just live rocks and thick sand/gravel and a heater. I'm thinking that there maybe more to it then that. Thanks for the help on that.

for a fish update, I have gotten the danios to 82F and the primary tank to just under 86F and all of the fish and invertebrates are doing well but I do have one plant that may not live through this heat, I've had this type before so I don't know.
 
I woke up this morning with the primary tank at like 90F and the danio tank at like 86-88F so I now know that the danio can handle the higher temps. Needless to say when I saw the temps I turned them both down but it's nice to see that I have that leeway for the temps.
How long do I need to have the temp up and the salt in the water before the ich would have died off and the water is safe?
 
P.S. I found what looked like those ich spots on one of the plants so I took the plant out and rinsed it off vary well. My danio are all schooling and my twin bar platy has started chasing the female bumblebee around. My shrimp are loving the higher temp and the snail is fully extended out of her shell and is scooting around like mad. It looks like things are better and I so want to put the tank back together but I know that I need to wait at least a week before I do.
 
I would wait two weeks. Keep the temp high.

I've never noticed "ich" on plant leaves... maybe the cysts, but more likely this is debris of some sort. Or bubbles?
 
I would wait two weeks. Keep the temp high.

I've never noticed "ich" on plant leaves... maybe the cysts, but more likely this is debris of some sort. Or bubbles?


the white stuff looked like ich spots like you would find on a fish, they were also a little fluffy. It could have just been cyst but either way it's gone.
 
my primary tank is just past 86F so wouldn't that kill the ich off faster or should I still wait the 2 weeks?

Ich does cycle at higher temps, and some suggest temps above 86F can actually kill it. But whichever, it is only in the free-swimming stage that it can be killed, and the "cycle" takes up to a week. This is why we maintain the treatment for up to two weeks. I'm sure there is probably a article post on the ich cycle somewhere here.
 
Ich does cycle at higher temps, and some suggest temps above 86F can actually kill it. But whichever, it is only in the free-swimming stage that it can be killed, and the "cycle" takes up to a week. This is why we maintain the treatment for up to two weeks. I'm sure there is probably a article post on the ich cycle somewhere here.

Freshwater illnesses and dieseases section. Higher temperatures are thought to speed up the metabolism in the ick.

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I had to move the danios back into the main tank because I was worried about all my fist getting enough aeration since I only have a air pump meant for a filter pump for something like a 2 gal tank, also the danio were doing great in the other tank at 84-86F so I figured it wouldn't hurt to put them back together and only run that one tank with that air pump. I'm starting to feel overloaded with all this new info and worry about the fish, having sick or injured pets make me worry, I guess it's a good thing though.
 
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