paintedglass tetras

i've read on a number of websites while i was researching my pond that Malachite green and salt should NEVER be used together. actually, i bought a bottle of malachite green to treat some ick in my pond and it said on the bottle not to use it with salt. they didn't say anything about heat though. they said that the salt reduces the effectiveness of the malachite green.

besides that, Roan knows everything. she is the fishy god and is not to be argued with ;)

and more than half the posts i've ready by you reptile guy are full of misinformation and bad advice.
 
I bought 2 painted whiteskirts when i first started my tank, i bought them because i liked the look of the black skirts my brother had. I didnt know they were dyed until i was reading up about them. But that was 4 years ago, and they are still alive, and they dont have any color left in them. They are very healthy. Just figured i would put my happy story out there.
 
what other misinformed advice am i giving so i am aware of it? no one person is a fishy god. no one knows everything. i may be wrong about some things, but if what i hear is wrong as far as i know, dont you think i should speak up? im going by what i have read in books and what i have experienced first hand. that is exactly what forums are here to do, let everyone get together and share their experiences for the benefit of all. now if i say a general statement and the package on the meds says the opposite, go by what the packaging is telling you, dont change your ways because of one random person online (which every person on a forum is, no offense to anyone).
 
reptileguy2727 said:
what other misinformed advice am i giving so i am aware of it? no one person is a fishy god. no one knows everything. i may be wrong about some things, but if what i hear is wrong as far as i know, dont you think i should speak up? im going by what i have read in books and what i have experienced first hand…
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Hi RG.

Its usually best to deal with the misinformed advice on a case by case basis. Just more convenient than trying to compile. More importantly…

When people disagree in here it usually is about information. Its not a personal attack. Roan might have phrased things a little more diplomatically, but she's trying to make the point that she strongly disagrees: this is a newbie forum and the viewer to participant ratio is 10 to 1. Points sometimes need to be made strongly. Still, its not a personal attack. Don't take it personally.

I've posted info and have had folks, including Roan, question it. In some cases I've done more research and found out that I've misunderstood something. In other cases, I've provided a cite for my information and folks, including Roan, have come back and said "Hey, did not know that".

Be willing to back up your info when you're right; be willing to be wrong. This thing works best if it stays friendly.

Have a nice day…
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reptileguy2727 said:
what other misinformed advice am i giving so i am aware of it? no one person is a fishy god. no one knows everything. i may be wrong about some things, but if what i hear is wrong as far as i know, dont you think i should speak up? im going by what i have read in books and what i have experienced first hand. that is exactly what forums are here to do, let everyone get together and share their experiences for the benefit of all. now if i say a general statement and the package on the meds says the opposite, go by what the packaging is telling you, dont change your ways because of one random person online (which every person on a forum is, no offense to anyone).
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You're right. No one person is a fishy god and I am definitely not one. I just want to help whomever I can and educate myself in the process. That's the only reason I am here. Really.

Seriously, ReptileGuy, last thing I wanted to do is upset you. However, as CarpGuy also stated this place is populated largely by newbies and I would hate to see someone do the wrong treatment and kill their fish. It *does* happen and people who have come here have lost fish using malachite green + heat.

I agree about the packaging, however a *lot* of the packaging either does not give you enough information or no information at all. Jungles ich stuff, which contains malachite green, has cautions for "senstive fish" without any indication of what the senstiive fish are. They don't bother to tell you. I guess they want you to figure it out for yourselves -- after your fish die.

I just feel that, based on the type of people that frequent these forums, recommending proven and relatively *safe* methods of dealing with parasites and diseases is a wiser course of action.

M2C
Roan
 
jdcreigh said:
hello,we have a 30 gal. with 10 painted glass tetras.on the fins of 4 tetras there are what i thought was ick.i have been treating the tank for 7 days and no change.could it be somthing else?it looks likewhite specks on the outer parts of the fins.the instructions said 1 drop per gal.and for tetras 1 drop per 2 gal.so i only add 15 drops.also when then are ick free can they be added to a tank with mollies?thanks
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Hey, painted glass fish have a tendency to get Lymphocystis. I thought my glass fish had ich,too, and I started treating it. But now i'm pretty sure it's Lymphocystis. You can do a search on it and come up with pictures to make sure this is what your fish have. Someone told me about this, and I don't understand it, but from what I understand, they get these tumors or whatever they are from stress. Maybe from being dyed, maybe just from being move to a new home. My fish had Lymphocystis when I bought them. There is apparently no cure for it. Just have to try to get the fish un-stressed and the spots will fall off in a few months. They tell me it's not contagious from fish-to-fish. And the spots are starting to fall off my fish. Just my 2 cents. Good Luck!!!
 
ok there are looking a lot better.when they are all cured can they be mixed with mollies in there 55 gal. tank?or will they fight?
 
mollies need some salt to really thrive. most fish cant handle much salt and for the species that can handle it salt should only be used for treatment of a disease. fish "doing fine so far" does not mean they are thriving, living and thriving are too very different things. glass tetras (and most if not all tetras for that matter) arent good for tanks with salt in them.
 
i have had mollies for 6 years.i only bought 4 and they were in a 20 gal.since then they had fry after fry.now i have a 55 gal with many mollies and never add salt.they are very happy.so i dont think they have to have salt.
 
reptileguy2727 said:
mollies need some salt to really thrive. most fish cant handle much salt and for the species that can handle it salt should only be used for treatment of a disease. fish "doing fine so far" does not mean they are thriving, living and thriving are too very different things. glass tetras (and most if not all tetras for that matter) arent good for tanks with salt in them.
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Actually, mollies have been breed for countless generations in non-marine water and unless the mollies are wild caught, they do not need those conditions to thrive.

In any regard, if you wish to emulate the waters mollies come from, you would be looking at duplicating the GH of the water, not the salt content. They originally come from water that is extremely high in TDS, not salt. It's very similar to those of the African cichlids.

Roan
 
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