So, who's right? I know the Blood Parrot needed hormones to breed, but I thought the hormones were applied to the previously-collected sperm and eggs of the parents...
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So, who's right? I know the Blood Parrot needed hormones to breed, but I thought the hormones were applied to the previously-collected sperm and eggs of the parents...
Hickel Discus is a distinct species from other wild species Discus. Many live bearer hybrids originate from different species and genus. Swordtail, Variatus, Platy and Molly are distinct species and they have been hybridized so much that their genetic is hard to track.
All cichlid hybrids originate from close genetic line such as all Malawyan cichlids can cross breed because they are from a single Haplochromine line and all CA can cross breed becasue they are from a single Cichlasomine line. In a closed system, closely related cichlid will readily cross breed but distantly related cichlid will not. I don't think Flowerhorn is a hormone induced hybrid because many CAs have been known to hybridized readily. Convict, for example, has been known to cross breed with much larger CA including Dampsey, Mida, Jaquar and others. I have not yet heard successful cross breeding between CA and SA or between Malawyan or Tanganyikan cichlids.
Actually, there are non-Cichlosomine CA Cichlids, and there are many non-Haplochromine Malawian Cichlids. Also, it is the Heckel Discus, which has been bred into a lot of the fancy Discs now available.
we need to get over this thread cold turky
coe on lets just agree to disagree this thread is the most popular and the most boring all u peope are doing is saying 1 thing then an other person comes in says another thing is STUPID,BORING and repedative people cant u see what ur doing.
a rap up of this thread:the flowerhorn and parrot cichlod are hybrids some are mutated and some are colourful fish thats it
coe on lets just agree to disagree this thread is the most popular and the most boring all u peope are doing is saying 1 thing then an other person comes in says another thing is STUPID,BORING and repedative people cant u see what ur doing.
a rap up of this thread:the flowerhorn and parrot cichlod are hybrids some are mutated and some are colourful fish thats it
actually, if there is an opposite sex of its own species available, then it would much prefer to breed with them - which is one of the reasons it is important to keep pairs in cichlids communities. of course, if another member of its own species is not available, then it MAY go and breed with the opposite sex of another closely related cichlid species.
In a closed system, closely related species will cross breed even in the presence of right mates becaue the weaker pairs are unable to claim breeding territory. The dominant male will attempt to breed with every closely related female even if she is not his kind.
There are very few non-Haplochromine species in Lake Malawyi, mainly Tilapia and some are introduced species. Mbuna, peacock and Haplochromis are all Haplochomine by blood line. There are also very few non-Cichlasomine cichlids in CA. So Lake Malawyi and CA are similar in that majority of the cichlid fish in these waters share a common ancestrial line. On the other hand, Tanganykan and SA are similar in that cichlid fish there have diverse ancestrial bloodlines. Only closely related species can cross breed successfully. Distantly related fish do not produce fertile eggs. So the common belief that Blood Parrot is a cross between a CA Midas and SA Severum is an unproven rumor or lie. I am convinced that BP is just a Red Devel mutant similar to Ballon Molly or Blue Dampsey. I have yet witnessed successfull cross breeding of cichlids between continents or between African lakes.
There are very few non-Haplochromine species in Lake Malawyi, mainly Tilapia and some are introduced species. Mbuna, peacock and Haplochromis are all Haplochomine by blood line. There are also very few non-Cichlasomine cichlids in CA. So Lake Malawyi and CA are similar in that majority of the cichlid fish in these waters share a common ancestrial line. On the other hand, Tanganykan and SA are similar in that cichlid fish there have diverse ancestrial bloodlines. Only closely related species can cross breed successfully. Distantly related fish do not produce fertile eggs. So the common belief that Blood Parrot is a cross between a CA Midas and SA Severum is an unproven rumor or lie. I am convinced that BP is just a Red Devel mutant similar to Ballon Molly or Blue Dampsey. I have yet witnessed successfull cross breeding of cichlids between continents or between African lakes.
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A real petition
You could make up a real petition that -may- do some good if you really want to. You can ask people to send in their signatures to your address. You would need to write a letter to the fish farm that is creating these monsters. You can photocopy all the signatures on to this letter and mail it to the fish farm with your complaint. You would need a lot of signatures and you would need to mail it to the right place. This would be some work and take a while but if your serious about the petition it could be done.
You could make up a real petition that -may- do some good if you really want to. You can ask people to send in their signatures to your address. You would need to write a letter to the fish farm that is creating these monsters. You can photocopy all the signatures on to this letter and mail it to the fish farm with your complaint. You would need a lot of signatures and you would need to mail it to the right place. This would be some work and take a while but if your serious about the petition it could be done.
Re: we need to get over this thread cold turky
Sorry, but I think that yours is the point we'll have to agree to disagree on. If you don't like this thread, simply don't click the link. I don't find it boring, rather quite the opposite.
Sorry, but I think that yours is the point we'll have to agree to disagree on. If you don't like this thread, simply don't click the link. I don't find it boring, rather quite the opposite.
