PetSmart Backroom

I always shop at SuperPet, and I know people who work there and they love it, they actually have a vet come in from the humane society right next door to look over the animals daily, and the birds are always taken out of thier cages and cared for, and some of them sit on employees shoulders most of thier shift, hamsters are allowed to roam in those little ball things, ferrets are walked on leashed and allowed to interact with customers around the store. They don't sell dogs or cats. Fish are never overcrowded, and they do not store fish out of the customers eye, what U see is that they have! Reptiles are handled daily....all animals are interacted with and cages cleaned on a daily basis....it's the ONLY store I shop for my dog, cat, bird, fish, and my cameleon Guido!! :D

PETA = PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS
 
This video could have been filmed over 5+ years, and anytime an animal died as unfortuate as it is they where problably, just so happen to have a camera in the car or something. Then the video edited to make it look like 1 night and of course anystore would like bad under this circumstance.
 
I agree with PETA there is a place for all animals,








right next to the potatos and gravy!!!!
 
In short, they are extremists.
I think that the same thing could be said about everyone who's posted on this forum so far also it seems like most of you don't use logic and resort labeling which (not always but a very large percentage of the time) tends to be the tactic of people who are losing in an argument. You know what? I will highlight (in blue) any labels any of you use with what Ash said as an example.

To give you an idea, I have been a vegetarian for 20 years and I think they are nut jobs. I am very much in favor of animal welfare, and PETA occasionally brings up an important point.
For the first part I will say good for you (no sarcasm intended) and congratulate you the effort. You have said that PETA has brought up a good point and that point is?

However their delivery only alienates the people they are trying to reach. There are groups working on behalf of animals used in medical research, in the meat industry, etc. who acknowledge that these things will always exist, so they may as well create the best possible conditions for the animals in said industries.
Ah yes but those things don't have to. They are only their because it's a money saver. I would rather have criminals (that have no chance of rehab or are in their for life) be the ones receiving the short end of the stick when it comes to medical tests. The corporations don't want to do that because they tend to only care about money.

It's an obviously losing battle which does no one any good. There are certain animal uses I personally wish would disappear, fur for one, but rather than take a sane approach to these issues PETA launches assaults on personal property.
You are wrong in the fact that it DOES benefit both animals and people in the fact that animals aren't hurt from being healthier form not eating their own crap and the fact that people won't have to eat animals who have been eating their own crap. Let me ask you this... If someone was growing pot and the police came in and confiscated the pot do you think that would be an invasion of personal property?

Their borderline violent tactics and air of superiority are what makes PETA an essentially useless organization. They are a laughingstock, and unfortunately they make a laughingstock of anyone with vaguely similar goals.
How are they violent? Do they use car bombs on a regular schedule? It seems like most people on this thread use labels for thing instead of facts and statistics.
 
Just to note, my dog its its crap on a regular basis, got a puppy Im having to train to stay outta the litter box and stop eating kitty poop atm as well.

Im sure no one here is going to refuse medical treatemnt that would save there lives because an animal was sacrificed in the making of the drug-treatment. Im positive that no one is going to stop eating vegetables because the land teh veggies were grown on was fertilized with animal bi-products such as feces urine and dead.

No, I dont agree with PETA, nor what they stand for.

The backroom for petsmart, as already stated in this thread, of course is going to be littered with sick animals, where else are they going to put them?animals that are being treated and are not for sale, animals that have possibly died since an employee checked on them. At my jobe, we do wht we call the dead walk every 24 hours. OUr animal welfare states we have 24 hours to remove mortality. Of course, petsmart should set the sick animals free to to spread there disease, right? Or better yet, kill them and throw them in the dump out back.

Animals aren't comparable to humans. They lack the intellect and reasoning ability that humans have. Why else would animals that are domesticated have to be confined, to keep them safe of course so they aren't there own self destructor.

Facts and statisitcs, well, when stating opinions, normally there are no facts or statistics. A persons opinion is much like a fact tho, it cant be argued with.

Mother Yoda, can you post some facts and statistics to counter what others have said?

Ill ask that we keep the discussion civil, not saying that anyone hasn't, I just get vibes from this thread that aren't that good..:)

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I skimmed the web site and it doesn't look bad to me. What's with this negative stigma around it. I would really like it people would tell me exactly why PETA is such a bad thing.

Because they have decided we shouldn't eat animals. They have decided we shouldn't have cloths made from animals. They have decided they know what is good for us and we should obey them. They have decided on person, group or orginization that profits physically, emotionally or financially from anything doing with animals should cease and desist immediately.

I don't need their judgement in my life. They are basically in my whack-o catagory, that's my opinion, and not a judgement on the individuals, but them as a group.
 
I skimmed the web site and it doesn't look bad to me. What's with this negative stigma around it. I would really like it people would tell me exactly why PETA is such a bad thing.

Because they use negative propaganda, photo manipulations, and scare tactics to inforce their mostly uneducated opinion on the treatment of animals. The site looks great and makes it look like a great cause to fight for, which is exactly why it looks that way. On purpose, to make you feel like it's the best thing since sliced bread, but when those people are confronted with facts (such as accurate data on animal disasters such as oil spills or medical research facilities/zoos/circus policies on the care of their animals) put to them by scientific minded people (whether they be researchers or professionals such as doctors, professors, or other activists) they scream that the facts are misleading and biased. Facts can't be biased....they are either facts or not facts.

They also tend to take a radical movement in regards to their "pushing back" against people who don't think like they do. Instead of protesting peacefully the use of animals for fur clothing, they'd rather throw fake blood on the coat of an innocent passerby on the street, whether the coat was synthetic or not. To quote myself a few posts back, they use lasers to manipulate photos, causing animals to react, giving them the shot they want. They also tend to "free" medical test animals, pet shop animals, and zoo animals. By letting them loose, they are only harming the animals. How many tropical birds can exist in our world without the proper food? Not many. Their supposed "no-kill" facilities euthanize hundreds of animals a day all in the name of animal liberation.

I disagree with their anti-meat, anti-dairy policies. You only have to look in the mirror at a human set of teeth and realize that our bodies were meant to eat both meat and plant material. Our bodies digest it efficiently and with a well-rounded diet there is little need for supplimentation. Vegans strictly adhere to a diet that need to have extra supplimentation in the form of protein because they cut out the protein in their diet when they refuse to eat certain things. Meat is the most easily digested and utilized protein there is. I congratulate vegans and vegitarians on their willpower, it's just not a life I could choose for myself or my animals. There are PETA approved sites on the internet advocating the same no-meat diet for cats and dogs, which is biologically flawed. Cats are carnivores. End of story. You can't change millenia of existence just because you don't think eating meat is morally correct.

They have also been known to accost children outside their school handing out anti-meat product flyers with messages something like "Your Mommy kills animals". Not necessarily a respectable practice for any activist group.

It's not necessarily their cause I get angry over, it's their tactics. I am against limiting the use of animals in medical testing, completely against their use in cosmetics/beauty products, and I am very against primates being owned as pets. Ever. But I can talk about these issues like an adult, not like a organization that throws temper tantrums every time they are found out to be incorrect.

To balance out your PETA experience, here is a site article for you to browse... http://www.petakillsanimals.com/article_detail.cfm?article=134 The rest of the site is filled with more information. I don't 100% advocate either this site or PETAs site, it's just that you should have the right to decide for yourself what you believe.
 
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mother yoda I fail to understand the reasoning behind most of your arguements. You asked why they have a negative STIGMA. So of course, everything everyone uses to explain this is going to be based in opinion. I'm not wantonly slinging insults, I backed each one up with a cogent arguement. I'm not sure what you are getting at by asking "and that point is?" I was simply saying that some of the things they believe are unacceptable, I find unacceptable as well. Which ones aren't germaine to this discussion. However, if for example I believe that factory farms are bad for the country, bad for the animals, and bad for consumers, that doesn't mean that I believe ALL meat production should stop and people who eat meat are terrible human beings. I'm not an extremist. The entire paragraph which ends in the question about police raids is incoherent to me-I don't even know what arguement you are making there. And about them being violent- yes, they are violent. Siren brought up a prime example with them assaulting people wearing fur. That is a violent act (Additionally, they are allied with the animal liberation front, which has in fact been linked to several acts of arson and physical assault). Seriously, tell me, whose mind would be changed by such an act? Do you think that person is going to go home and say 'wow, that person who threw paint on me today really made me think? ' Of course not. And that's the problem. Oh, and another good point Siren brought up was the vegetarian cats and dogs thing- don't even get me started. I could rant for hours. Anyone who thinks cats should be vegans should have their pets removed from their care. Immediately. Anyway, their tactics don't create awareness, they infuriate people. Making people angry accomplishes nothing.
 
I skimmed the web site and it doesn't look bad to me. What's with this negative stigma around it. I would really like it people would tell me exactly why PETA is such a bad thing.



if PETA had their way, you wouldn't be here because fish keeping would be outlawed.

You would not be allowed to have ANY pets. No dogs, cats, birds, rodents, fish etc.

EVERYONE would be vegetarian by law.


And all by LAW. not by choice.

Now, do you still think they are not all that bad?
 
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