Pictus Catfish just dropped dead

it appears that gravity pours water into the wheel - we do have two filter cartridges in the penguin, charcoal and blue something (sorry to sound ignorant here, but I think it's the blue fiber stuff others have spoken of. the charcoal and the blue stuff are combined in each filter cartridge.

Hubby poured some finer gravel in tonight to help root the plants and we mixed it in with the 1/4' gravel - brought our substraight (sic?) level up to a solid 3 inches. Problem is he forgot to rinse it, so the water is cloudy, but clearing up. We bought 2 java ferns, two thingies that look like clumping plants that send runners up to the top with big leaves on top of the water and the fish lady gave me another fast growing low light plant for free, told me to pinch it in half and palnt both halves together. She said they all grow pretty rapidly and do well in low light. They came from tanks with fish in them - established tanks, and should help with the cycling since they should have the right bacteria on them. So now that I put the plants in, I should leave the light on during the day? we have a single florescent light in the hood.

the ammonia is still up to 1.0 and the nitrites are still around .25, but just a but more I think. I will keep checking - the little (one gallon) tank is at 0 ammonia and down to .25 nitrites so I think it might be finishing up it's cycle, although it won't be used for much but an emergency and quarantine tank.

I think we decided to make the 20 gal a community tank with some small but colorful schooling fish. Neons and such. The 55 gal will eventually become our semi agressive tank and we are going to wait on the marine tank until we buy our house.

But everything is going to cycle fishless from now one, because we can't take another massive loss. Too heartbreaking.

Will keep you posted on our progress. Seems like we both have been feeding the empty tank (oops) so there is plenty of food for the bacteria!!! Guess that's better than no food!!!
 
Try not to drive your ammonia past 5 or 6 ppm max.
 
'kay - we are excited about getting the plants and will have plenty of stuff to seed the big tank with when we get it set up. So far the liquid test has shown the ammonia to be just over 1.0. we put so many chemicals in it and did so many changes that it is taking a lot longer to cycle than the little bitty tank that we put nothing in. I guess the size of the tank probably makes a difference in the cycling time too, huh?

Thanks
 
you have the penguin model biowheel. The blue fiber stuff is filter floss
 
My experience is that larger tanks cycle a bit faster...but the key is the bacteria have a set reproduction rate, regardless of the tank size, as long as they have food and oxygen.
 
So basically, the 20 gal is taking it's sweet time because we put so many different treatments in it and so many water changes trying to do a fishy cycle, and the little bitty one gal one didn't get anything but an initial declorination treatment, is cycling faster because it didn't get any special treatment. Is this a good assumption
 
okay - ammonia doesn't seem to be going up or down - is hanging right around 1.0 - nitrites are up to .50 - and nitrates are at .25 - are we doing good?
 
yeah, if the ammonia isnt going up but nitrites are, its a good sign that the cycle is reaching its second stage. Soon you should see the ammonia go down fast. If nitrite levels stay low and nitrate isnt raising, you may need to add more ammonia to the tank, maybe a bit more food but it seems fine now.
 
I think we stunted it using Cycle, but I got a little different readings today.

Ammonia - somewhere between 1.0 and 2.0 - kinda hard to tell, but I think it is closer to 2.0
nitrite - up some - it is now 1.0 (from .50)
Nitrate - 20
PH - 6.8
alkalinity - 180
hardness 120

The baby tank (the 1 gal.) is cycled!! Not that it is usable for much - but it is
ammonia - 0
nitrites - 0
nitrate - 20

I seeded some of the gravel from it into the 20
 
good news, looks like the big tank is cycling well.
 
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