Not sure platies are chichlids, but I'll post here anyway. I have one male platy and 3 babies (~3.5 months old). Female died about a month ago, one baby last week. It was smaller then the other ones, weak, no appetite. Remaining babies look OK, but the adult male became very thin and skinny and developed a bent spine. They all rub their bellies to objects ocassionally, in fast and curvy moves, slightly tilted aside. No spots nor dots. Checked the disease article, bent spine points to tuberculosis, euthanasia recommended. Generally, they are active and feeding normally, I would say. Any suggestions?
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Water conditions? Temp? Goldfish and tropicals are a bad mix, simply because of different temperature and food requirements. At a guess, you'll start seeing more problems with the all the fish, especially if the tank is being kept cooler for the goldies.
Have you tested the tapwater? What all is in the tank? What did you use to change it? Most likey, you have hardwater with a high KH--no additive will effectively lower the pH.
You'll be better off leaving the pH alone. 7.6 is fine for most fish, and the chemical additives don't help, but rather create a yo-yo effect that is much harder on the fish than one that's slightly high.
You'll be better off leaving the pH alone. 7.6 is fine for most fish, and the chemical additives don't help, but rather create a yo-yo effect that is much harder on the fish than one that's slightly high.
The tap water has the same parameters as stated above. I boil the water and use conditioner before changing it. I will get a hardness test too.
On the other hand I just realized my tank might got infected with Hemorrhagic Septicemia or Enteric Red Mouth by a siamese shark I added last week. It died 14 hours later and it looked very much like the Danio Zebra in the pic (Enteric Red Mouth), internal bleeding, mouth wide open:
http://www.fishpalace.org/Disease.html
Few days later the other shark developed similar simptoms, but some salt helped, it started to cure.
Then today, I noticed small bloody spots around the mouth of one of my angelfish, breathing heavily. One goldfish has red streaks on its tail, same as pic at Hemorrhagic Septicemia.
Second time my tank gets infected by a shark. I realize now, longer quarantine is a necessity. Last time I used Maracyne 3 tablets x 5 days and it helped. Shall I apply that again?
On the other hand I just realized my tank might got infected with Hemorrhagic Septicemia or Enteric Red Mouth by a siamese shark I added last week. It died 14 hours later and it looked very much like the Danio Zebra in the pic (Enteric Red Mouth), internal bleeding, mouth wide open:
http://www.fishpalace.org/Disease.html
Few days later the other shark developed similar simptoms, but some salt helped, it started to cure.
Then today, I noticed small bloody spots around the mouth of one of my angelfish, breathing heavily. One goldfish has red streaks on its tail, same as pic at Hemorrhagic Septicemia.
Second time my tank gets infected by a shark. I realize now, longer quarantine is a necessity. Last time I used Maracyne 3 tablets x 5 days and it helped. Shall I apply that again?
Yes--but make sure to monitor the ammonia levels, since Maracyne 3 will hurt your biological filtration.
And, honestly, you still need to consider moving the goldies out of a tropical tank. in the long run, they will overstock the tank, and are not compatible with the other fish.
And, honestly, you still need to consider moving the goldies out of a tropical tank. in the long run, they will overstock the tank, and are not compatible with the other fish.
Bought a hardness kit. KH is 50, GH 200. Shall I use softener?
Angel died 2 days ago, right when I started Maracyne. Goldfish started to heal, but today (2nd day of Maracyne) noticed reddish fin of another goldfish. Not sure what it is, might be injury, one platy baby keeps biting that fin.
Angel died 2 days ago, right when I started Maracyne. Goldfish started to heal, but today (2nd day of Maracyne) noticed reddish fin of another goldfish. Not sure what it is, might be injury, one platy baby keeps biting that fin.
Sorry about your fish!
Whatever is actually killing them, I would think they have become more suseptable (sp?) from the up and down of your ph.
In future, try not battling a ph of7.6 should be fine.
Also, IMO living at that temp might weaken the immunity f GF . although others will disagree.
good luck
Whatever is actually killing them, I would think they have become more suseptable (sp?) from the up and down of your ph.
In future, try not battling a ph of7.6 should be fine.
Also, IMO living at that temp might weaken the immunity f GF . although others will disagree.
good luck
Didn't use that pH reducer that much. In this case I think it's definetely a disease. Yesterday I went back to the store where I bought the sharks and there it was another one having exactly the same symptoms like the one I bought and died right after. That's it, I learned my lesson, I already bought stuff to set up a Q-tank.
Now another thing, I bought some water softener, they said it reduces hardness quite dramatically from 220 to 60 in 24 hours. Isn't that stressful? Should I apply it gradually? It's a pillow that goes into the filter.
Now another thing, I bought some water softener, they said it reduces hardness quite dramatically from 220 to 60 in 24 hours. Isn't that stressful? Should I apply it gradually? It's a pillow that goes into the filter.
Read up on HOW it softens the water. Often, these things 'work' by swapping ions out of the water, and replacing, say, calcium ions with phosphates. The water will read softer, but it still has the same amount of dissolved stuff, just of a different makeup, which doesn't benefit the fish at all.