product safe start any good?

The best plan would be to use this WITH the ammonia, rather than relying on it when you have fish. That way you do not have to worry about wc's and can be more lenient with testing. Plus, no risk with fish lives.

TSS is not made to be used with ammonia.If the fishless cycle with ammonia is what you want to do,don't waste your money on the TSS.If you do use it,just follow the directions on the bottle.I would be cautious in using it if the place you are buying it from refrigerates it though.
 
TSS is a lot like "Prime" it detoxicifies Ammonia as well as adds bacteria. You can put your test kit away. The only one that will get stressed out will be You during this process. The fish will addapt just fine. Watch out for algae growth on glass, rocks, and plants. This will be the time to get pleco if you were wanting one, you'll wonder where the algae went. I keep 1 or 2 pleco of one type or another in all of my tanks. I don't like scraping algae.
Not really at all.
SafeStart® accelerates the establishment of the bio-filter in newly set-up freshwater aquariums. The live bacteria start working immediately to provide a safe and healthy environment for your fish without the long wait. SafeStart can also be used after a water change, when adding new fish or after medicating.

from http://www.tetra-fish.com/sites/tetrafish/catalog/productdetail.aspx?id=1276&cid=3582

It only claims to add the bacteria. Hence why if you get a bad batch and are not monitoring the params you would be in a bad situation. You need to be able to catch ammonia/nitrite and deal with it asap. Fish will not "adapt" to these substances, they will cause damage of some sort at any readable level.

I highly recommend not just getting a pleco for the sake of one. If you really want to know why, read this thread
 
TSS is not made to be used with ammonia.If the fishless cycle with ammonia is what you want to do,don't waste your money on the TSS.If you do use it,just follow the directions on the bottle.I would be cautious in using it if the place you are buying it from refrigerates it though.
Please explain how a product that adds the beneficial bacteria necessary for an aquarium cannot handle pure ammonia?

Tetra claims that you can add fish instantly. Thats what they are banking on, people will buy this because it is easier than a fishless cycle. It has nothing to do with the Safe start product itself.

my point is that you can use this as a jump start. it is the same as seeding from another tank while using pure ammonia rather than fish to make sure the cycle runs its course without risking the fish.
 
Not really at all.


from http://www.tetra-fish.com/sites/tetrafish/catalog/productdetail.aspx?id=1276&cid=3582

It only claims to add the bacteria. Hence why if you get a bad batch and are not monitoring the params you would be in a bad situation. You need to be able to catch ammonia/nitrite and deal with it asap. Fish will not "adapt" to these substances, they will cause damage of some sort at any readable level.

I highly recommend not just getting a pleco for the sake of one. If you really want to know why, read this thread
From my experience it works great.I know and have read from quite a few people as well that have used it with great results.But it does not offer any guarantees.Everyone has put their 2 cents in.Now it's up to the OP to use it or not.

When did anyone mention a pleco??
 
TSS is a lot like "Prime" it detoxicifies Ammonia as well as adds bacteria. You can put your test kit away. The only one that will get stressed out will be You during this process. The fish will addapt just fine. Watch out for algae growth on glass, rocks, and plants. This will be the time to get pleco if you were wanting one, you'll wonder where the algae went. I keep 1 or 2 pleco of one type or another in all of my tanks. I don't like scraping algae.
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Please explain how a product that adds the beneficial bacteria necessary for an aquarium cannot handle pure ammonia?
I honestly don't know why it is not recommend to use with pure ammonia,but it isn't.
 
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