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Oh and thanks platytudes. :)

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Semilla said:
As a newb, to this sight and more or less to the hobby, I have a couple suggestions..
When a poster asks a fairly specific question, then goes on to explain that they know stocking isn't ideal, but water params are good, filtration is good, AND another tank it's being cycled to alleviate every crowding.. Why are nearly all of the answers "you WILL have a problem. That fish WILL get too big." Right, I get that. Said so myself. Just an example, but the thing is, I did rely on google and looking through forum archives, for over a year, before I joined a forum. And I'm thinking I joined the wrong one. I was looking for a community of hobbyists who wanted to share knowledge, both science and experience. Instead it seems like a community of hobbyists who enjoy feeling superior to others. If you do want to attract new members (maybe replenish the stock, since I guess you're losing the older ones), try to remember that not all new posters are idiots. Maybe spend less time arguing with the idiots, and more time sharing this knowledge and experience with those who are looking to gain from it. A person who claims that they CAN'T test the water, or they don't NEED to do water changes, is unlikely to learn, and guaranteed to leave you frustrated and embittered. A person who asks WHY is likely to listen to the answer. I do hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes, so to speak, but really..
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StarSapphire22 said:
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Though a lot if times people just don't read everything. I can't tell you how many times the op has said they knew something, but there fish were in a temporary setup or something like that, and the first 12 posts were critiquing the op's stocking instead of recommending a filter. (we have some SERIOUS stocking police!) Or responses to a 10 page thread that say "I only read up to page 4, but..." Well, little did you know the same points you just made were on page 6. Or people say they just skimmed it. How are you supposed to be a part of a discussion with only half the information? That's like trying to solve an algebra problem but you only have half the equation. Maybe I'm weird but I think forums are about discussions, not just a q and a session. If you can't contribute to a discussion fully and just want to post as many half answers as you can, then go to yahoo! answers.
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+1 to both

I joined AC a over two years ago, dropped out for a while due to schedule constraints, and returned a month or so back ... and I believe that the overall tenor of the forums are changing for the worse. Yes, people new to the hobby do continue to make the same mistakes and it can be tiring answering the same questions again and again. And, yes, some people continue to post questions/ideas and then argue with everyone who tells them the need to rethink their concepts, tank plan, maintenance, test kits, whatever ... BUT that's no excuse for the out-of-control rudeness that I see more and more frequently in AC. Some posters have taken to laying down the law in thread after thread with virtually no attempt at dialogue. There are increasing numbers of personal attacks rather than reasoned disagreements. And some posters seem to believe that whatever they think about a person must be absolutely true, because they make judgementmental statements based on how they perceive a post and refuse to engage in any genuine dialogue.

It's gotten so bad that I've started using the forum's "IGNORE" function to block posts by certain posters. Already, I'm up to three people ... a sad commentary on the state of AC.

If this keeps up, I'll drop out permanently. And it won't be the fault of the nitwits who create threads solely to argue with respondents. Those people are easy to spot and avoid, and they tend to disappear anyway. If (when?) I give up on AC altogether, it will be because of the members who think it's their job to play police, judge and jury ... who don't really seem to care about actually creating/contributing to an online community of hobbyists ... who appear to want nothing more than to shout out their opinions and have everyone else agree with them. It's emotionally and mentally enervating to spend time in the company (however virtual) of such people.
 
H2Ogal said:
+1 to both

I joined AC a over two years ago, dropped out for a while due to schedule constraints, and returned a month or so back ... and I believe that the overall tenor of the forums are changing for the worse. Yes, people new to the hobby do continue to make the same mistakes and it can be tiring answering the same questions again and again. And, yes, some people continue to post questions/ideas and then argue with everyone who tells them the need to rethink their concepts, tank plan, maintenance, test kits, whatever ... BUT that's no excuse for the out-of-control rudeness that I see more and more frequently in AC. Some posters have taken to laying down the law in thread after thread with virtually no attempt at dialogue. There are increasing numbers of personal attacks rather than reasoned disagreements. And some posters seem to believe that whatever they think about a person must be absolutely true, because they make judgementmental statements based on how they perceive a post and refuse to engage in any genuine dialogue.

It's gotten so bad that I've started using the forum's "IGNORE" function to block posts by certain posters. Already, I'm up to three people ... a sad commentary on the state of AC.

If this keeps up, I'll drop out permanently. And it won't be the fault of the nitwits who create threads solely to argue with respondents. Those people are easy to spot and avoid, and they tend to disappear anyway. If (when?) I give up on AC altogether, it will be because of the members who think it's their job to play police, judge and jury ... who don't really seem to care about actually creating/contributing to an online community of hobbyists ... who appear to want nothing more than to shout out their opinions and have everyone else agree with them. It's emotionally and mentally enervating to spend time in the company (however virtual) of such people.
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+1 i actually have started to think twice before making a thread now.

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StarSapphire22 said:
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Though a lot if times people just don't read everything. I can't tell you how many times the op has said they knew something, but there fish were in a temporary setup or something like that, and the first 12 posts were critiquing the op's stocking instead of recommending a filter. (we have some SERIOUS stocking police!) Or responses to a 10 page thread that say "I only read up to page 4, but..." Well, little did you know the same points you just made were on page 6. Or people say they just skimmed it. How are you supposed to be a part of a discussion with only half the information? That's like trying to solve an algebra problem but you only have half the equation. Maybe I'm weird but I think forums are about discussions, not just a q and a session. If you can't contribute to a discussion fully and just want to post as many half answers as you can, then go to yahoo! answers.

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Yes! Exactly! I am to take criticisms and long term advice from someone who has not bothered to read the original question? how exactly do you make a thorough diagnosis without the pertinent information? IMO this is at least as rude as the newbs who ignore/argue with good advice.
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Honestly, this is an inevitable course in the life of a forum. At some point many people simply "outgrow" the forum and either move on to a different forum that suits their needs or simply leave altogether. There comes a point where you've already seen, read or experienced what you can until there is a new breakthrough in a particular field (in this case aquaria/fish keeping) and those instances are few and far between.
 
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