Regulating pH

He didn't try to sell anything to me, well not yet anyways. He told me to stop using the pH stuff, and also stop using ammo lock, but keep using the stress coat and stress zyme.
He also told me that he wouldn't sell me any fish till the water condition improves.

Yes, I guess I could buy my own test kit..
 
you need your own test kit. When my tanks are bad, I test daily. Driving to a shop daily would be silly. They are worth the seemingly expensive price they are. I recommend aquapharm kit that includes pH, nitrate, nitrite, ammonia. It may seem like a lot to put all the tubes in the water, but actually it isn't, and you don't need to run every test every time. Test strips are a waste as they are unreliable. You can get the stuff on the internet, but I am in a kick of supporting local small businesses and they should have it too.

When you have the test and find your ammonia is high, you should use ammo lock...in other words don't waste your bottle. It is a good product. For a bit more economical choice I use prime. BOth bind up ammonia making it not dangerous fo rthe fish but still usable by good bacteria. Follow the directions on the bottle. It will also dechlorinate/dechloramine your water. I question that it does more than that...one claims to lower no2 or no3. But what you're going to find is that if you haven't cycled your tank (read the stickies on this and look up the nitrogen cycle on the net) is htat is it going to be a very dangerous place for your fish unless you keep ammonia and nitrite down during the first few weeks. frequent water changes will be necessary. And you should not at anything else living until this is done, about 2 months depending on how things go.

I would maybe use those other chems, since you have them, I wouldn;t recommend going out and buying more. That is left to your research. perhaps if you see noticable difference in fish behavior with or without. I am not one for chemicals like that.

Don't use the pH stuff.

The next time you go, demand that he tell you what he is testing or doing or recommending and why- nicely I mean. he may have thought you knew or he was caught up in what he was doing and didn't think. I used to be a teacher, so I look at things from an educaiton stand point. Don't be afraid to sound stupid...cause you won't. And you'll learn stuff. If I know another solution and I think the shop is questionable, I ask "well why not this...", you gotta pick their brain. I want to know why a shop is selling me every single thing and if something sounds questionable, you should go research first- at least before you put it in your tank. Pretty soon you'll have tons of info in your head and when you see someone else in your situation, you'll have a lot to offer.

Most of all have patience. try to keep you tank stable and healthy and stable and stable. (I have a hard time with patience and my tanks).

good luck
 
1- GH- water hardness- 2*
2- KH- buffering level- 10*
3- pH about 6.8-7

If I had to guess the first two are backwards.
If it was AP kits, I would say KH= 2dkh, GH= 10 dGH
Which could easily put the PH at 6.8-7 if the Kh was 10 DKH ph would be close to 8.0.
 
Is it just me or is there absolutly nothing wrong with the ph, gh, and kh of her water? My recomendation is to stop using all chems, do weekly 25-50% water changes. If you need to use ammolock on an 18 month old tank then then something is wrong with your bio filtration, or your tank is overstocked.

When you say you are on rainwater supply, do you mean you use collected rainwater to fill the aquarium, or your house is supplied by a well that is filled by rainwater? If the first is true, why are you not using your tap water? If the second is true. what kind of conditioning do you do to the water before adding it to the aquarium?

We'll figure this out sooner or later.
 
We live in the country so our water is collected in a concrete tank off a shed roof. The water gets put through a filter (i think that just filters out any foreign objects) then put in all the stress coat & stress zyme then thats it.
 
Oh I should also add that we are just following instructions that we were given by the petshop that sold us the tank. They told us we need to use the ammo lock. I personally believe they just tell you to use all this stuff so that they get a bigger sale.
The guy at the other pet shop said ammo lock is like a medication and should only be used when it is needed.
 
Bought a test kit

Well I bought a test kit and proceeded to test my tank water.
Just for the record, there was approx 20-30% water change done Saturday night.
results..

Ammonia - somewhere between 4.0 & 8.0, it definitly went very green
Nitrate - somewhere between 1.0 & 8.0. it was red anyways..
Nitrite - 0ppm, definitly stayed blue

I take it those are fairly high readings (apart from the nitrite) and I should be doing a water change?? How much??
 
Ammonia and nitrite should be 0 if the tank is cycled, anything above 0.25 is cause for concern, and pretty much anything a 0.5 is damaging fish. the levels you mention would be deadly.
dave
 
Yeah.. I figured that was bad.. but they are still alive right now and swimming around actively.

I did a water change of about maybe 40% and tested again. The results were lower. Should I be doing daily water changes? Or "cycling" whatever that means..?
 
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