./.././.sick danio?././././.

yea he died and found him under a vace somehow i mean under it not were they swim through. tahnks nate
 
Sorry to hear your danio died.

It is my experience that people who own local fish shops are usually more experienced at selling fish than actually keeping them.
There is no way that taking a test of water from your tank can affect the cycle of your tank.
Here on this forum there are alot of very experienced fishkeepers that are always willing to help. If you want my advice if you have a problem ask the guys here first ;)
 
wat is a salt bath and thanks for you comments in trying to help. and people are saying that a should do 50% water cahnges and other people not to i dont know who to believe but ill get the water tested soon at petland. then ill get my one any suggestions? i think theres one like 700 test for 19-24 bucks...thanks ................... nate
 
In general, theres nothing wrong with doing a water change, especially if you thik your fish is ill. I dont think it will affect your cycling in a bad way, since the fish is/are producing waste all the time. And you want to be sure to keep your levels from going all wacky. Id do a water change now (25-30%) unless youre planning on going to the petstore in an hour or so. Use a gravel vacuum (siphon) if you have one, if not buy one soon.

FYI: Either Petco or Petsmart sells the API master test kit and matches their internet price which is $15 bucks or so LOWER than in-store....someone on here must know which it is!
 
thanks for the info, its weird he sais to keep the water in there for a month and add water but dont take water out to do the cycle naturaly. soory for missplelling if any... tahnks.


nate
 
PetsMart is the one that meets prices. You can get the API master test kit (which test for PH, Ammonia, Nitrites, and Nitrates for 13.50 if you go to this page: http://www.petsmart.com/global/prod...1153452580931&itemNo=0&In=Fish&N=2030068&Ne=2

and print it. Then just take it to petsmart and you'll get the test kit for 13.50 instead of 28.99$

Now, as for testing while cycling.... You have a real moron giving you advice. Testing will not effect your cycle.
As far as water changing, again you have a moron giving you advice. I did a fish cycle (where you cycle with fish). I placed in 8 or 9 fish into my 55G after I got the temp. at the right level. I did daily water changes anywhere from 25% on up to 50% depending on how my water parameters (test) were. If my ammonia was getting high or my nitrites were getting high, I would do a 50% partial water change. If they (ammonia and nitrites) weren't too high, I would only do about a 25% water change. I lost only one fish which I later found out was a fish that needed a group to swim with and also a fish that isn't easily kept. I still have every single one of my other fish. Oh wait, I take that back, I also lost a balloon molly to bloat. Anyways, my tank cycled after about 6 weeks and has continued to do well.
 
thanks very much ill get it very soon
 
no not testing he said water changes messes up the cycle not testing.
 
Water changes do not mess up the cycle. The bacteria colonize on surfaces in your tank (gravel, filter, etc.) not free floating in the water. Not doing water changes while cycling with fish WILL most definitely expose them to high levels of dangerous coumpounds. Ammonia and nitrite can do permanent damange to fish. The way the cycle works is that fish produce ammonia as a waste, then ammonia eating bacteria grow int he tank in response. While those bateria are growing you run a very serious risk of having dangerous level of ammonia in your tank for your fish. Removing the water will still leave enough ammonia for the ammonia eating bacteria to grow, but will keep the level safe for your fish hopefully. Once the ammonia eating bacteria is established, they produce nitrites, which require another type of bacteria to grow to eat the nitrites, this is the second phase of the cycle. Once again you have to remove the water to keep the nitrites form becoming toxic. These nitrite eating bacteria produce Nitrate, the final cycle bi-product. Plants will use nitrate, and this is not as toxic as ammonia or nitrite, but level still need to be kept fairly low.

Hope that helps you. There is also a really good article about cycling here on the forum somewhere (I need to get to sleep or I woudl post the link :) )
 
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