They are definitely NOT the same thing. The shell orientation is not only different, but the shape is completely different. I had them for months and months before I got any regular ramshorns, and had a lot of time to observe them.
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They are definitely NOT the same thing. The shell orientation is not only different, but the shape is completely different. I had them for months and months before I got any regular ramshorns, and had a lot of time to observe them.
Kristina
lol brandon, are they red too? mine are small and stay taht way, they dont get any bigger and their bodies are flatter than ramshorn and they always have the shells sideways like kyryah said, so deffinately a new species 
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They stay pretty small. These never have their shell upright. I don't think they are anything too new, I mean I've seen them on the web. I just can't find a name for them, so until then, I call them Brandon snails! lol
Ahhhh... well I must not have them then... I see rams with their shells sideways in my tank all the time- but they are just plain leopards with their shells twisted usually- they're not shaped different- and they don't always carry them sideways.
I must just not have had the priviledge to house these snails yet then.
Still- I think I recall reading there are actually dozens of species of ramshorns- some more common than others- it's just since many look so much alike they get called just "ramshorn" most of the time.
I'm fairly certain I have multiple species of bladder in my tank- not just colour differences- but shape differences too- some are more elongated than others... the white/transparant foot bladders are longer and skinnier than my black/brown/and bronze bladders.
It wouldn't surprise me if I, and most of us had several species of Ramshorn each in our tanks.
I must just not have had the priviledge to house these snails yet then.
Still- I think I recall reading there are actually dozens of species of ramshorns- some more common than others- it's just since many look so much alike they get called just "ramshorn" most of the time.
I'm fairly certain I have multiple species of bladder in my tank- not just colour differences- but shape differences too- some are more elongated than others... the white/transparant foot bladders are longer and skinnier than my black/brown/and bronze bladders.
It wouldn't surprise me if I, and most of us had several species of Ramshorn each in our tanks.
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You are correct on those accounts. It's not just ramshorns, ponds and bladders but MTS.
Dozens? There are hundreds. I doubt that we all have multiple species in our tanks though, only one is commonly traded, and unless everyone starts ripping them from the wild and start passing them around, it's unlikely new species are being introduced.
Yeah, I know I've got the quilted's and the red ribbon in my tank. I started with about a dozen or so quilteds- I've no idea when I acquired the red ribbon- but every once in a while I do see one.
From what I understand red ribbons are the most common because they breed the quickest- it'll be interesting to see if they one day outcompete my quilteds- the quilteds have such a huge headstart.
I'm really interested in those giant floridans (or something like that)- one day I'm going to try and get a tank set up with them as the only MTS in it. A 3 inch Malaysian is surely something to behold.
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This isn't a Malaysian trumpet but still part of the genus, Melanoides. 2-2.5 inch Melanoides loebbeckei. Since these pics were posted, the erosion has patched and I need to get new pics once I get the camera lens fixed.
