Snowflake not looking so good
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I'm not at home at this time and im not a lot of time to tell you anything as I would like too, but one thing is for sure. You not add food to this tank day after day in hoping the eel would feed for just how long was it now since the last time the eel fed?
Also, how large is the eel and you said you would provided a picture and nothing, so how can I tell what if anything is wrong? For the most part of your tank setup, to me anyway, everything is wrong for the skimmer you have isn't ideal for that tank and the bio load you have in it.
I mentioned before to you to search around for a fresh sea food market, you say nothing of that. I told you things and you not provided much of anything to what you will do if anything or remove some fish to lighten the tanks bio load.
Of course, this is totally up to you in what you want to do if for the best for the fish you keep in your tanks. So if you not the mind to do anything about it, then im sorry for I can not help you if im talking and it goes in one ear and out the other. I will not knock you on any of this, the choice is yours to if you want to do right for your fish or not.
If that's true on your nitrates, its lower then what I thought it be. But if it is higher and your saying nothing, you be only fooling yourself. But you do want to get it lower if you can for me with eels having it at 50 PPM is too high and depending on your other tank problems, it could affect the eels diet. Its the same thing with a lower Ph, many others in the forums think that a tank with a low Ph with eels, that it makes the eels sick and die. That too is nonsense for what it would do is affect the eel diet as well, but I do suggest to all who owns any eel to not test that out for any long term, the eel might not recover.
Also, how large is the eel and you said you would provided a picture and nothing, so how can I tell what if anything is wrong? For the most part of your tank setup, to me anyway, everything is wrong for the skimmer you have isn't ideal for that tank and the bio load you have in it.
I mentioned before to you to search around for a fresh sea food market, you say nothing of that. I told you things and you not provided much of anything to what you will do if anything or remove some fish to lighten the tanks bio load.
Of course, this is totally up to you in what you want to do if for the best for the fish you keep in your tanks. So if you not the mind to do anything about it, then im sorry for I can not help you if im talking and it goes in one ear and out the other. I will not knock you on any of this, the choice is yours to if you want to do right for your fish or not.
If that's true on your nitrates, its lower then what I thought it be. But if it is higher and your saying nothing, you be only fooling yourself. But you do want to get it lower if you can for me with eels having it at 50 PPM is too high and depending on your other tank problems, it could affect the eels diet. Its the same thing with a lower Ph, many others in the forums think that a tank with a low Ph with eels, that it makes the eels sick and die. That too is nonsense for what it would do is affect the eel diet as well, but I do suggest to all who owns any eel to not test that out for any long term, the eel might not recover.
If you are doing as much water changing as you say,Your nitrates should not be that high,Unless You are using crushed coral,bio-balls,Or your overfeeding.I have had my snowflake for about three years,I have fed him silversides,shrimp,krill,Mostly shrimp.He is 14" now and fat.He has outlasted all others and is tough as nails.I do not know how long they live,If yours is not dying of old age.IMO I would say its the high nitrates and ammonia burning him up.
What info are you looking for, that I'm not suppling?
I'm not able to get a picture of the eel, since he's hiding the LR.
You have asked me for the water test reading. I have supplied them, so please stop implying that I'm lying about the readings...(But if it is higher and your saying nothing, you be only fooling yourself. )
I told you that I did go the the supermarket and got squid and shrimp. So why are you saying (I mentioned before to you to search around for a fresh sea food market, you say nothing of that. ) I did post this.
I'm not able to get a picture of the eel, since he's hiding the LR.
You have asked me for the water test reading. I have supplied them, so please stop implying that I'm lying about the readings...(But if it is higher and your saying nothing, you be only fooling yourself. )
I told you that I did go the the supermarket and got squid and shrimp. So why are you saying (I mentioned before to you to search around for a fresh sea food market, you say nothing of that. ) I did post this.
My eel is about 3yrs old and he's about 14" also. They are tough as nails. One morning we couldn't find him in the tank. I thought maybe he was hiding in the sand or something. After about 4 hrs of not seeing him I got nervous and torn the tank apart. I found him outside the tank. He crawled into the molding at the bottom of the outside of the tank. He was out of the water for at least 4hrs. I thought he was dead, but no way. he lived. He stop trying to get out after that.
Yeah they will climb out if you give them a way,I had to lower the water level in my tank a little because when I would feed him he would stick his head out of the water and a couple times almost crawled over the side.Scared the s**t out of me the first couple times.Thats amazing yours lived being out of the water so long.I hope he recovers for you,I do not know why "some" people do'nt get it.It's like their reading but not listening.LMAO!!You will get one almost every time you post something here.No disrespect to any one intended.I know if I feed him something he has to tear apart(big shrimp)he will thrash really hard against rocks and stuff,he has scuffed his self up before,I try to feed him smaller pieces now.
I'll have to do some research on their life exp.We know it is at least three years!Just trying to cheer you up.I know how much it hurts when you see an old friend in need,and do not know what you can do to help.Sounds like you are doing all you can to nurse him back to health,It's all up to him now.Please let me know how it goes.
I'll have to do some research on their life exp.We know it is at least three years!Just trying to cheer you up.I know how much it hurts when you see an old friend in need,and do not know what you can do to help.Sounds like you are doing all you can to nurse him back to health,It's all up to him now.Please let me know how it goes.
Sorry, I should have told you that I not need a whole body shot, your a micro lens? A clear close up and that would do me fine.
(This I post in my second response to you)
The eels main diet is crustaceans, but you can as well add squid but be sure its not too soft for you need to try to add as many variety types of foods to its diet and please do feed twice a week, later try to add small pieces of fish as well but do try to get some crab and be sure its healthy for the eel and you can do this by web searching for fresh sea food markets in your area.
You said you got shrimp and squid, but you did not say it was at a fresh sea food market>
Before I make a response to that, what size was the eel when you got it?
I'm sorry of that to happen, but know this, eels aren't really looking for some escape route as many believe. For the most part, it move about either investigating their area for possible prey and what happens is it moves up the side of the tank and over the top. I'm not surprised as well that the eel lives still.
On the eel escaping, if you make no efforts to secure any exits from your tank, it will happen again>
However, what does surprises me is that you had this eel for three years and your still no idea of its actions and if there really is a health problem or not.
They can live 25+
Now im going to ask you something rdefino, please give the answers others who are trying to assist and stop trying to contradict me for after all, you changed your story on a thing or two, not I and I did tell you to search around your area for a fresh sea food market. :headshake2:
You are a very young man, your actions do tell>
If I can help...by fresh sea food market I believe OMOFS is trying to get you to go somewhere other than a typical supermarket which may use preservatives. Around here, I try the asian market. Seafood comes in a bag fresh off the truck.
I just did a 25gal water change this morning. I'll get some more reading tonight.
fresh sea food market..I didn't know that's what you meant. I do have some in my area. I'll get some food from them.
The eel was smaller than a pencil when I got him 3 yrs ago.
One more thing "You are a very young man, your actions do tell>"
I'm not sure what you consider a young man, but I'm 39. you don't need to take a stab at someone just because they need assistance with something.
Why are you saying "still no idea of its actions and if there really is a health problem or not."
Explain this one. I've had him for 3yrs. In the past say 2weeks his actions have changed and his look has.
Before that he vary very active, sometimes when I feed the other fish he would swim to the top to be feed. So I do know his actions. That's why I'm saying he looks sick.
fresh sea food market..I didn't know that's what you meant. I do have some in my area. I'll get some food from them.
The eel was smaller than a pencil when I got him 3 yrs ago.
One more thing "You are a very young man, your actions do tell>"
I'm not sure what you consider a young man, but I'm 39. you don't need to take a stab at someone just because they need assistance with something.
Why are you saying "still no idea of its actions and if there really is a health problem or not."
Explain this one. I've had him for 3yrs. In the past say 2weeks his actions have changed and his look has.
Before that he vary very active, sometimes when I feed the other fish he would swim to the top to be feed. So I do know his actions. That's why I'm saying he looks sick.
For one thing usually when one answers as you do their young and head strong and not answer right away as you been doing. For as well, there are many who are your own age and behave as they not need to be advised of anything. Now I told you of the system you have and its bio load, its not just for what you have and yet you yourself not even say anything on that which is like your not want to see some one post something in which is so negative to what your doing.
This is one of the biggest problems in trying to assist on eels in general of the hobbyist tank and inhabitants. But then again now, your hearing nothing from the others here on your tanks bio load and the type of filtration you have. I said it before, and I will say it again, the skimmer you have for the tank size and bio load wont do.
As for a fresh sea food market in your area, I no idea in where you live, I will tell you that you can search this again on the net, meaning the Internet>
If you think im stabbing at you I will not answer anything further on the eel with you. You on the other hand not giving so many straight answers to my questions and had changed your story on one. So with that happening, how can any one assist you?
Also, when was the last time the eel feed? For your saying it not look well>
You say it moved out and to the top the tank, your other fish here like the triggers for one thing and the sfe hasn't as far you know been getting nip at? Also depending on the trigger sizes and good hiding places, the eel could be feeling intimidated.
So was the eel 8-9" when you first gotten it? For even if it was 7" and now you say the eel is 14" You had stunt growth the eel, it should be if was first 8" nearer to 2.5'. but it should been already larger then 2'
You had this eel half the time others had theirs that grown to 3.5' or more in 5.5 to 6 years :headshake2:
Also on the thing were you say to explain why after three years the eel be acting sick like, I said this time and time again that eels suffer the longest to were your fish can die in a few days, the eel depending on the situation can hang in there for many months >
This is one of the biggest problems in trying to assist on eels in general of the hobbyist tank and inhabitants. But then again now, your hearing nothing from the others here on your tanks bio load and the type of filtration you have. I said it before, and I will say it again, the skimmer you have for the tank size and bio load wont do.
As for a fresh sea food market in your area, I no idea in where you live, I will tell you that you can search this again on the net, meaning the Internet>
If you think im stabbing at you I will not answer anything further on the eel with you. You on the other hand not giving so many straight answers to my questions and had changed your story on one. So with that happening, how can any one assist you?
Here we are again, I told you that you had this eel for three years that you should had learned something from watching its movements and behavior
Also, when was the last time the eel feed? For your saying it not look well>
I would be very happy to explain as much as you like me too, only im not knowing what is the real deal here with you for eels, they for one thing are the most hardy marine species one can own. I will tell you as much that high nitrates for the long term affects their appetite and as is, you been feeding only two types of foods all that time you had the poor thing. And also the skimmer you have with the tanks bio load is not justified/sufficient.
You say it moved out and to the top the tank, your other fish here like the triggers for one thing and the sfe hasn't as far you know been getting nip at? Also depending on the trigger sizes and good hiding places, the eel could be feeling intimidated.
So was the eel 8-9" when you first gotten it? For even if it was 7" and now you say the eel is 14"
You had stunt growth the eel, it should be if was first 8" nearer to 2.5'. but it should been already larger then 2'You had this eel half the time others had theirs that grown to 3.5' or more in 5.5 to 6 years :headshake2:
Also on the thing were you say to explain why after three years the eel be acting sick like, I said this time and time again that eels suffer the longest to were your fish can die in a few days, the eel depending on the situation can hang in there for many months >
