So much for reestablishing my tank....

Is it possible for a tank to lose its cycle? oxygen content maybe?

Still grasping at straws here to try and figure what is happening with my tank.

Is it possible that this can happen which would cause the fishies to die?

and what about oxygen content..maybe suffication? I do have the small bubble rock (about 2") in tank (this is where the two neons hang out) and of course the disturbance the water flow makes coming from the filter.

Due to the hood on the tank, everything is centrally located in the back left corner (bubble rock, heater and filter).
 
Maybe it has something to do with the new fish?

Example... I bought 4 neons on a very hot day. The store had a retarded clerk that spent 15 minutes chasing the poor little guys all over the place, harassing them half to death. I buy them and go home. I don't have AC in my car and the drive home was like 45 minutes. By the time I got home, the fish were so hot and so stressed that only one of them ended up surviving. Granted, he was fat and healthy... but I figured he needed some buddies.

I learned my lesson.

Next time, I go to a different store. The people there were much more experienced and efficient about netting my neons for me. They bagged up my fish and set them in a doubled plastic sack. I covered them with my jacket to keep them in the dark so they would be less stressed. I also picked a cool, overcast day so the heat wouldn't do them in. I got home, added them to the tank after they'd had a chance to acclimate, and I haven't lost a single one of them, even after a very minor outbreak of ich!! One of them had a sore on his tail that's healing up just nicely and all of them are fat and sleek as little piggies.

So, I only buy fish when weather permits me to (since I'm not temp-controlled in my car). I try to keep the bag covered and dark to reduce stress. I buy the fish right before leaving or as the last thing I do during the shopping trip. I give them plenty of time to acclimate in the tank and I usually hit them with a bath of Quick Cure. Granted, it's better to QT them... but I've always had good success with using QC. I didn't this time, hence the ich, but they were all healthy and vigorous and it quickly went away with all of them only ever having 2-4 spots each for a brief time.

Maybe some of these tips will help?

Also... is it possible that there is some other chemical in the tank? Did you decorate with rocks, shells, or anything other than the two plants? If there's harmful chemicals or mineral traces in the tank, most wouldn't show up on your regular perims tests.
 
after you've acclimated the fish according to the above specifications, try to keep the light off and the tank covered for a few hours.. they may get overly stressed out being in the new place and seeing people walk around and stare at them.

it seems a little sketchy, beyond a simple acclimation problem. the salt seems a little high, i put some salt in most of my tanks, but most freshwater fish dont actually need it.. some can survive (and even thrive) in it, but its not required and may even do more harm than good.

i also wonder if it might be a problem coming from your LFS... do you get all of your fish from the same place?

what do you treat your water with?

where did you get your tank? was it new or used? and did you try to clean it with anything before you put fish in it?
is your water a funny color?


anyways, good luck and keep us posted.
 
James0816 said:
np...sry...they were actually white clouds.



water parameters at last test were:

ammonia - 0
nitrite - 0
nitrate ~ 10
ph - 6.2 ( i thought this was interesting in that it dropped .4 from last test but the lfs said not to worry about it)
saline ~ .02 - have not added anymore salt to it. trying to steer away from salt as many here have recommended.
temp is around 76

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how did you test got salinity? typically it is tested via specific gravity. 1.00 is dstiilled water
1.025 is natural seawater.
.02??

ths could be the problem..

I would slowly remove the salt via water changes ..

good luck and keep us posted.
 
PetSmart actually tested the salinity using drops like all the other tests. Water turned a dark purple color. The lady wrote down all the numbers on a piece of paper. Funny thing...she recommended adding a little more salt. I will not be adding any more salt to the tank.

As far as decorations and such...nadda. I removed the plastic plants and stump that were in there. I just bought two real plants and have them in there. There is a metal band on each plant holding them together.

most recently I added a couple drops of Prime in the new water going into the tank. Other than that, I have never added anything to it before. Just ran it from the tap into the jugs and let them sit for quite a few hours before adding to the tank.
 
well there's your problem

tap water must be treated. you have to have a water conditioner that removes chlorine and chloramine.. Prime will do that. follow the dosing directions on the back of the Prime container.

honestly what i would do is take a bowl and fill it up with the water from your tank. put your neons in the bowl, then do a 100% water change, then TREAT the new water according to the Prime directions, then slowly put the new tank water into the neon's bowl, then pour a little bit back out into the tank, then a little out of the tank into the bowl.... do this about 5 times.

by doing this you will have gotten rid of most of the salt, and you will have treated your tank.
 
most recently I added a couple drops of Prime in the new water going into the tank. Other than that, I have never added anything to it before. Just ran it from the tap into the jugs and let them sit for quite a few hours before adding to the tank.
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BINGO...........:)
 
let me clarify a little on the tap water. i have well water not chemically treated city water.
 
Well water shouldn't have any chlorine or chloramine, but it is generally much much harder than city water. Also, who knows what else might be in there.

Probably not the solution to your problem but I thought that I should throw it out there as a possibilty...maybe just a bad batch
 
jpappy789 said:
Well water shouldn't have any chlorine or chloramine, but it is generally much much harder than city water. Also, who knows what else might be in there.

Probably not the solution to your problem but I thought that I should throw it out there as a possibilty...maybe just a bad batch
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except that prime isnt going to fix hard water.. nor is hard water going to kill fish outright.
 
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