The Myth of Fossil Fuel

How do they explain so many fossils with no oil around them? How do they explain not finding any fossils in the oil?

Fossil fuels come from plants not animals.

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Don't forget that synthetic oil does not come from decaying organic matter.



They use methane.

Which is organic (see "cow power" :) ).

Finally, Raskolnikov has a very good point about the Alaskan Tundra.


As for "global warming" being a myth, why are the glaciers melting so fast... or why (and hint, this is a very important industry) are maple trees "migrating" farther north? While I might buy that "global warming" is natural, the rate at which it is currently occuring is not. National Geographic even devoted an entire issue to global warming, but I doubt their scientific knowledge can compare to the Washington Times... :rolleyes:
 
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or the IPCC, or NOAA, or the WMO. but hey:
emg said:
When I was in the 4th grade the "junk scientists" were scaring everyone with the threat of a new ice age......now it's global warming....."Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me...."
If they were wrong once, clearly they're wrong this time right? Don't attack science, you clearly have no clue what you're talking about if you do. Least of all you'll irritate the scientists, who generally just want to learn and pass on that learning for the betterment of the world.

There's no question that there's a natural cycle of climate cooling and warming (inferred by the stable oxygen isotope record from ice cores). Nor is there a question that there are natural and solar processes, mostly unexplained, that have caused these historically. The only real debate is whether a significant proportion of the current climate change is anthropogenically caused.

The best data currently available to climatologists suggest that a significant proportion is; what's to be done about it is another question. No one has suggested that we should trash the economy by stopping oil use entirely, but starting the ball rolling towards alternatives is doubtlessly a sound policy. Not just for the environment, but to decrease our dependancy on the Mid-East.

Ironically, as one of the cofounders of Greenpeace put it, environmentalists are one of the biggest obscacles to alternative fuels. This because they oppose everything except for solar, which is unfortunately, currently not a very efficient alternative. They even oppose wind powered generators because they're unsightly and kill birds.


I see what you're saying about the economic longitude of oil stocks Slip, thanks for clearing that up for me.
 
at the risk of being called a :troll:...
Has the world not been subject to warming...and cooling over the millenia? Just asking...

Gas prices seem to be fluctuating with rumors of any potential probem before it happens, and really moving up when it does.
I think the oil companies need to be able to up prices to repair lines and refineries, etc. That's not net profit tho. Is their income being blown around by the press looking to cause political problems? If they have truely shown profit after all the repairs are done then shame on them for taking advantage of the situation and they should be regulated. But if what has been reported as profits is really income needed to repair their infrastructure then fine..just don't go to the government for handouts to make repairs then. that line's already too long.
 
We're currently going through the planet's highest extinction rate. The last thing I'll be worrying about is whether or not there is an unlimited fuel supply.
 
happychem said:
or the IPCC, or NOAA, or the WMO. but hey:

If they were wrong once, clearly they're wrong this time right? Don't attack science, you clearly have no clue what you're talking about if you do. Least of all you'll irritate the scientists, who generally just want to learn and pass on that learning for the betterment of the world.

I have nothing against honest/true science.....notice I specified "JUNK" science in my post back there. When you start getting into using science to back up an agenda....ignoring information that doesn't jive with the particular idea one wants to promote......that's what I have a problem with. (for instance...the FACT that mars too is warming up...who here has heard any of that info gabbed about on any media forum concerned with global warming ??? Anyone ??? Nope...because that fact does not help thier cause at all...it causes people instead to question their theories...and we must NOT have that !! If they were being honest with their thinking/information...that too would be discussed in any forum debating the global warming theory...but it isn't)

There are legitimate scientists who question the global warming theory, but you never hear much from them because what they have to say doen't jive with what the very left liberal minded professors who run our universities want folks to believe.
 
have nothing against honest/true science.....notice I specified "JUNK" science in my post back there. When you start getting into using science to back up an agenda....ignoring information that doesn't jive with the particular idea one wants to promote......that's what I have a problem with. (for instance...the FACT that mars too is warming up...who here has heard any of that info gabbed about on any media forum concerned with global warming ??? Anyone ??? Nope...because that fact does not help thier cause at all...it causes people instead to question their theories...and we must NOT have that !! If they were being honest with their thinking/information...that too would be discussed in any forum debating the global warming theory...but it isn't)

Exactly.

Any evidence to dispute the global warming theory gets dismissed because it does not help the agenda.

Changing by 1 degree in 100 years is nothing to worry about. In NE it changes by 50 degrees or more every 6 months.
I don't buy the global warming theory or the older new ice age theory. Just a bunch of scare tactics.
Look at the huge panic over Y2K from all the "experts". What a crock.
 
Off topic but anyway why not,

Mars - Yes, there is a slow climate change happening. Not similar to earth though as Mars has no atmosphere to speak of, has a year that is twice ours, has an eliptical orbit and the vast majority of its ice is Carbon Dioxide with little H2O. So its rate has little to do with Earth's rate.

And Y2K? I don't believe that scientists were the ones speaking doom. I believe that was the media. As many of my friends worked long hard hours to get compiter systems up to scratch, they never once thought the end of the world was coming. Often it was their bosses (heads of banks and major corps.). I did little reading from any credible source that said the economy was coming to an end. So don't drag scientists into that one.

And really you are actually comparing seasonal temp variations to an increase in the average world temp? Really? Are you sure about that one? Oh and 1 degree Celcius not the big F.
 
1 degree celsius is HUGE! Don't forget that some areas, the temperature actually went down, while others went up. So in some areas, the change is a lot more than 1 degree celsius!
 
1 degree celcius or fahrenheit is a joke.

Talk to me when it's about 20.

And I do mean the media. Just like the y2k, they spout gloom and doom with the global warming.

Anything to get grant money. That's all this is about.
 
slipknottin said:
Fossils are extremely rare in any case, we dont find many of them at all.

sorry this is a little off topic.. but have you EVER been to a limestone quary? or observed any other deposit of sedementary rock? I used to have an old limestone quary in my backyard and there were thousands of fossel shells in the rocks, i could just go outside and point them out in the rocks. I have also taken apart rocks from out west (someplace where the shell company is breaking abart the rocks and gettin the oil out of them) and found fossil INSECTS (even softbodied flies) and leaves the bugs still had the legs and wings showing, and antanae still intact... o yea the fossels smelled like oil... and someven had traces of markings on them from the exoskeleton (one of the flies still showed spots on its wings)... even fossilised mineing equipment has been found, and a few fossilised flour bags from the 1800's... fossils may be rare, but in the right cercumstances (flood followed by pressure or being drenched in supersaturated water) THOUSANDS can be made at once.
 
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