They're gonna ban plecos!!!!!

and you know why? because hobbyists out there tossed them in the lake/river when that 14 inch common pleco got too big for that 5 gallon tank. that's why florida is full of Central American cichlids.

the problem is that ANY non-native fish is an invasive species. today, plecostomus, tomorrow all fish?
 
and you know why? because hobbyists out there tossed them in the lake/river when that 14 inch common pleco got too big for that 5 gallon tank. that's why florida is full of Central American cichlids.

the problem is that ANY non-native fish is an invasive species. today, plecostomus, tomorrow all fish?
totally agree. now all fo the invasive species are tearing the native species apart. why do you think Hawaii has lost so many of its native, one of a kind species not found anywhere else in the world? not to long ago, a fisherman caught a 25 pound pacu in a lake.

its not even the warm water places that only have problems like this. there are aisan carp everywhere in the Du Page river in Illinois, brought over probably as koi.
 
Maybe if LFS employees would educate people in the first place, and not seel people fish that will grow too big for their tank, maybe there would beless of a problem. I think LFS's also need to educate customers on the dangers of releasing their fish into the wild.

But of course, there are always the careless idiots who don't listen and do it anyway, ruining it for everyone.
 
I did a search and couldn't find any other info. about a "proposed plecostomus ban" other than this "Ray Lucas" source, so, although it may be true, I can't find any back up info. Still, one of the critical roles we ALL can play as hobbyists is to continue to educate others regarding buying fish they cannot properly house and to warn how illegal releases of any fish can jeopardize our hobby overall. Given the havoc that non-native species have played all over the world, bans of certain species are a likely response, as we have seen for some fish already. Unfortunately, these "knee jerk" bans are usually made broader than necessary and can also restrict species that are not problematic.
 
Maybe if LFS employees would educate people in the first place, and not seel people fish that will grow too big for their tank, maybe there would beless of a problem. I think LFS's also need to educate customers on the dangers of releasing their fish into the wild.

I disagree.

Why should they take time out of their day to explain what we should already know? What ever happened to personal responsibility? We're too quick to blame someone else for something that is our fault to begin with. This is true with much more than fish and it irritates me to no end.
Lets blame the guys/gals working at the fish store for something that we didn't do.
 
I dont think any of them should be banned. I think people should be resposible and get the right thing---which would eliminate the market for these fish. I dont need the government thinking for me any more than they already do.

Of course, my theory will never work...but I can always dream.
 
I disagree.

Why should they take time out of their day to explain what we should already know? What ever happened to personal responsibility? We're too quick to blame someone else for something that is our fault to begin with. This is true with much more than fish and it irritates me to no end.
Lets blame the guys/gals working at the fish store for something that we didn't do.

both are to blame. lfs should know what they are selling and not lie telling people it will only get so big.

people do need to step up and know what they put in there tanks but a lot of people believe what the lfs says.
 
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