Ok, ok lets have a bit of calm.....the important thing is not to get 'this' out of context! Now, i'm unclear what 'this' is and i'm sure i have no idea what context it was said in, but one thing i am sure of is leave 'this' 'in'. Like all things 'this' probably doesn't like being moved 'out' of anything, especially if its got to go back 'in'. 'This' like 'that' should surely be left comfortably sandwhiched between the warm bossom of context and no where else. Well i hope we are all clear now on the subject of 'this' thread.....no i really hope we are....i would donate my kidneys to the devil if someone responseable just told me they knew what was going on......please!