What's a good Laptop to have? Laptop experts, I need now. :)

I wouldn't go for that particular Gateway if you have gaming in mind. It just won't live up to your expectations if you're aiming for any games produced in the last couple years.

The HP linked is overpriced for what you get, and with a native res of 1440x900 on a 17" laptop screen... you're getting kinda ripped off. :X (besides, there's really no point to using blu-ray at that resolution either) If you really want to spend $1400 on a laptop, and are dead set on an Intel core, this is your best bet. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220379 Excellent native resolution, fast hard drive, solid cpu, good mobile gaming video card. Don't expect it to last too long on battery life if you plan to game without being plugged into the wall, but if you just want to watch a movie or something you should be fine.

If you'd like something a little more compact, less of an impact on the wallet, and still a good performer, check this one out. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220348 Solid cpu, gaming video card, plenty of memory.

The big thing with the whole 3gb vs 4gb pertains to the operating system. But, its not just that Vista can "see 4gb" where XP "sees 3gb." It has to do with being a 32 or 64 bit operating system. Vista 32 bit will only "see" 3gb, as it assigns the other gb to other hardware. Your computer will still make use of all 4gb, and you would benefit from two identical sticks of ram to make best use of dual channel memory. With Vista 64 bit, the operating system can assign all 4gb to the page file directory. (32 bit has limitations, and basically tops out at 3gb, so it just gives the other gig to stuff like onboard video, sound, etc.) Either way, you'd want to make use of the dual channel memory. (hence, 2 x 1gb sticks instead of a single 2gb stick, etc.)

Whichever way you go, here's basically what you'll want to look for.

- A dual core (2.0ghz+) processor, either from AMD or Intel (I'm not going into the Intel vs AMD debate here... suffice it to say that they're both good choices)
- A 7200rpm hard drive. (5400 is acceptable, but 7200 yields better performance, particularly for gaming when you are accessing random files on the hdd frequently) Volume isn't too important, as basically anything over 160gb (industry standard) will be more than enough. If you have THAT much... errr... "stuff" you have downloaded, an external hard drive to store everything would be a good option, to keep the internal hard drive free for program files.
- 4gb RAM. Kinda touched on this earlier.
- Geforce 9600M/ATI Mobility 3650 or better. A higher number in the 0x00 (x's location) will generally indicate a higher performance level to be expected.
- 1680x1050 native res if the monitor is 17" (or 1920x1200 if you really want to shell out) or 1280x800 native res if the monitor is 15.4"

Good luck to you either way. (and check Newegg frequently, as they have daily deals on stuff... sometimes its just hard drives and cpu's, other times its laptops)

Thank you for the information gatotsu. Looks like the stuff I would want in a laptop you shown me is with ASUS G Series G50V-X1 Notebook Intel core 2 duo P8400.





well... here are my 50 cents...

I suggest a Lenovo thinkpad x200
tho... no optical drive...

If you want a laptop riddled with features... I suggest a Sony VAIO VGN-FW198UH the problem is that the battery lasts for 2 hours LOL
2 Hours? Kinda sounds like a PSP.
Dual core processors are faster. Plus some applications are starting to require dual core processors. Although I cant think of an application off the top of my head.

Currently quad core processors can only be found on desktop PCs

So just having dual core processor makes things run faster. I see.

PMd you with the link to the laptop I bought.

Good luck!!

Thanks!
 
One more thing gatotsu. Say if there was one game i couldn't play, and I needed like 3.0 ghz, can I make modifications in my laptop? Say, like removing Intel core 2 Duo from the my laptop that has been used for a while, and putting Intel core 2 quad core in one day/years later to come?
 
^ not easily. The only upgrade that is generally easy (but not just a drive swap) is to add RAM. If you want a good pugrade path, go desktop w/ a higher end MOBO - then you can upgrade processors, RAM, video card & HDDs later on.
 
WE just picked up a Gateway, its ok but nothing special. I've had a few problems with the driver for the CD/DVD drive. I found a fix that requires going into the registry to fix it, which I don't have a problem with, but it shouldn't happen in the first place. I also haven't been all that impressed with Vista, especially since I've found a fair number of programs that won't run or even install on it (the most aggravating of which were ZoneAlarm firewall and the software for my mp3 player). The most aggravating thing is that it looks like many software manufacturers don't have updates for programs that won't run on Vista, and some don't even plan on creating them.

And Jon, I know you're going to say its a non-issue because you can tell Vista to run a program in XP mode, but that option hasn't solved the issue yet, after several attempts.

/wants XP back
 
Not all laptops can have their core processors upgraded. Especially if their processors are soldered in place.
 
Oh okay. So its a no go for intel core
 
One more thing gatotsu. Say if there was one game i couldn't play, and I needed like 3.0 ghz, can I make modifications in my laptop? Say, like removing Intel core 2 Duo from the my laptop that has been used for a while, and putting Intel core 2 quad core in one day/years later to come?

Generally speaking, you should be fine with a 2.0ghz dual core for laptop gaming. You won't be running at the highest resolutions the game can achieve, nor will you have the textures cranked to their highest settings. (let alone antialiasing or anisotropic filtering... leave those to a desktop gaming rig) What you should expect with gaming on a laptop is to be gaming at mostly low, potentially medium graphical settings, and with the ASUS laptop I linked you earlier, you should be able to do so at your native resolution of 1680x1050 on most games. Now, something like Crysis will probably force you down to 1024x768, and likely running most settings on low to keep gameplay smooth, but even on low that game looks pretty intense.

By comparison, I run Crysis at 1920x1200, all settings on "very high," with 4x adaptive antialiasing and 16x anisotropic filtering enabled. Mind you, I have an AMD Phenom 9950 (quad core) overclocked to 3.0ghz @ 1.3625v. (stock voltage is 1.3000v) I also have 4gb of 1066mhz RAM running at 5-5-5-15 timings, and a Radeon 4870X2 video card. (1600 stream processors, 780mhz core clock, 950mhz mem clock, 2gb video memory) As far as gaming machines are concerned, this thing can tackle any game on the market without breaking too much of a sweat. Crysis is still the only game that has the power to bring it to its knees. Would I see more performance with a highly overclocked E8600? Probably... but that setup would have cost more than what I paid, for an imperceptible gain over what I am already capable of.

What kind of computer do you currently work with? My bet is that the laptop will be a nice improvement, and that you'll be very satisfied with your purchase. :)


random question, might benefit the OP so i'll ask here...

4 ram slots... 2 identical 1gig sticks, 2 identical 512 sticks.. are both going to operate with dual channel capacity?

Yes, that should still work to one's advantage. Generally speaking, Newegg will sell kits specifically designed to work in unison, i.e. a 2x2gb kit, a 2x1gb kit, or a 4x1gb kit. More often than not, its cheaper to go that route, and less of a headache than risking an imcompatibility between ram sticks if you go for two different types of ram, as you suggested. (some motherboards are picky, not all are) If you get 2 1gb sticks, and 2 512mb sticks, both made by the same manufacturer, designed to run at the same clock speeds, and at the same voltage, you should have no problems at all. If one is slower than the other, the computer will automatically de-tune the faster ram to run at the same speed as the slower ram for stability's sake.
 
I have a HP desktop computer with ViewSonic monitor. Over 5 years old... I upgraded it's RAM from 512 to 1 gb months ago. lol Not much has been done.
 
So you're likely on the old HP Pavilion A500 series. Yeah... you're not going to believe the upgrade that laptop will be for you. :P
 
q: Orly?

Cool
 
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