Would you ever buy a fish with ich?

[schigara]

I see what you're saying but I think you're missing my point. My point is purely personal responsibility. When you buy a fish, it's not like buying a Toyota, where one can expect a warranty and expect that it be fixed or replaced when it doesn't perform up to expectations.

My 3 LFS's do give a "warranty" on their livestock of as little as 7 days to as much as 14 days and I think this is very generous.

If a LFS were held accountable for any and all deaths of all livestock they sold, there would be no LFS's to buy anything from. PERIOD!!! We are dealing with live animals and they are in OUR care. We can not expect a LFS to do an exhaustive and lengthy QT and still make a profit and still stay in business.

If the fish still dies after appropriate QT, who's fault is it. Should the LFS have to eat the cost? Remember we are talking about a very volatile live commodity.

I think the big question is, could your regular LFS afford to perfectly QT every single fish before it is sold to absolutely guarantee an ich free fish?

I would certainly hate to be involved with a business with live product and I was solely responsible for the life of the product and the end user was given a free pass.

well not so much flak but more of a coment, what happends when you DO qt and DO Hypo and the fish STILL dies? I say a discount is JUST. As much money as sw fish are and Im not sure where you live but where I live once that fish walks out that door "all sales are final" I think we all run risks w/ anything we put in our tanks and I believe that even if we qt and do everything correctly there STILL a chance (small chance) that our display tanks can come down w/ some sort of disease or parasite or virus.

Ive had both fish that I bought flawless and have been qt and then died a couple months later and also had bought fish that where eating well swimming fine but had a touch of stress ich and they to this day are alive and healthy (ich free) If the deal is good and you have the time I say take it.

 

[schigara]

Let's go further. The price we pay for our exotic pets is not that high. If you take into consideration what some pay for certain dogs or cats($200-$1500 or higher), our fish that come from all over the world are quite reasonably priced and we don't have to take them to the vet for another big bill for shots and whatnot.

Don't kid yourself, even your basic yellow tang or clownfish is an exotic pet and because you paid a meager $20-70 per fish does not mean you paid your way out of responsibility for a living thing. Think about how it was captured and transported. You, the end user ,are ultimately responsible for the health and well being of your exotic "pet".

Be realistic. In a saltwater tank, the fish are about the cheapest thing we will ever buy, especially in a single purchase.

 

[SHK_ATK]

I do have a LFS that DOES qt fish for about 2-3 weeks before it puts the fish in the public eye. Livestock is always a HUGE variety of fish and all pretty much ich and parasite free, The down side??? COST!!!!! A fish I can get online for 25 bucks they sell for at least 3-4 times as much. I guess I see myself saying Hey mr. fishguy, I have some $$ and you have a fish Im eyeing/ intreasted, but its a wee bit sick how about cutting me a deal. Win win Id say.

As far as caretake, the "standard" qt, meds, hypo. W/E. Is up to US (the caretaker)

I do your point as fish being the cheaper of things in a sw system I think the most expensive thing in my tank is the LR!! I do have other pets that cost a hell of alot more than anyfish ive bought (IE Great Dane & Macaw) BUT If I were to add up fish that die due to whatever illness they had when I purchased them Id say Im right around the $200 mark.

I guess to use your analogy If I where to buy a toyota, and its under warranty (ie the motor blows up)Im not going to be complaining about the cost, BUT if im at the dealership and I notice the interior is all tore the hell up and looks way below avarage, I might try to haggle on price (knowing im going to have to take care of it before I start driving it around town (IE qt before I put in display tank))