You Know They Exist...

Emg said:
... but....you cannot say it isn't possible, anymore than I will say it is impossible for life to be on other planets....just unlikely ;-) But
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The word "unlikely" doesn't make sense to me... Are you talking "all" planets, or just the planets we know about?

We don't have the technology to visually look at planets near other stars to observe 'life'. Seems we're lucky to know if a moon spins around one of them.

It's not fair...

Where we will go when we 'run out of gas'?





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Well now you are talking about philosophy. The same questions framed thousands of years ago in philosophy have still not been answered.

But to question why there is any reality what-so-ever?

I've thought the same thing.

But I've thought the same thing about a god that "was always there". Where did god come from? If you can believe that god always existed and had no creator...

Then why isn't the idea that the universe always existed and had no creator not feasible?

Seems to me that both questions require the same leap of the imagination.

But at least we can prove the universe exists so it's actually more reasonable than the other possibility.
 
I agree with that last point Watcher....the universe does indeed exist ! :)

And No...I cannot explain how God can just always have existed, yet the universe had to start somehow..... but it in no way hinders my faith. I chalk it up to my limited ability to percieve things that are way beyond my ability to comprehend. A person could tie their mind up in knots trying !

I guess this may be a good place to end here....since we both can agree that the universe does indeed exist ! LOL

I have enjoyed this trading of thoughts, ideas and information...I hope you have too ! I have managed to stick to scientific thoughts and ideas for the most part...(not bringing up my theological thoughts on the whole matter that is).....and you have managed to get through it all without calling me an ingnoramous neanderthal....lol......(which you have to honestly admit...most agnostic/athiests percieve believers to be..some are quite outspoken about it too !)

Thank you for this lively discussion and your patient and thoughtful responces to my comments and queries!
 
Hey I had a good time too.

I was raised in the faith. And I cannot to this day allow my mother to know that I now no longer believe. It would kill her.

But after many years of intense study and searching...

I just couldn't hold on. Too many things seemed wrong. I think if there is a creator, there is no way that we will ever know anything about what it wants us to do, or why anything happened in the first place.

We are all just part of the universe. Every molecule that makes up our body was born in the heart of a star. And one day, not too long away, we will flow back into it. Tiny parts of the universe, studying in awe the universe that we are a part of. Until we merge back into the all.
 
Emg said:
...I chalk it up to my limited ability to percieve things that are way beyond my ability to comprehend. A person could tie their mind up in knots trying ...
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Aaww, I'm still on the overhand knot!

I'll give you a teaser...

Aliens travel 'through' anti-matter.

Anti-matter is larger than visable unisversal 'matter'...

What we can't 'see' is the answer!

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I really liked the discussion about quarks and such, can we continue that? My feeling is that Quarks are just about at the level where energy converts to matter. That is why (I think) they appear as quasi-matter. For a visual, when water turns into steam it seems to dissapear, but it's really just converted. When matter gets as small as quarks it's too hard to measure. :eek: I believe that there is at least one more Law in science that has yet to be discovered. That could help tie together the flaws of physics. Oh, how I wish I had a mathmatical brain! Maybe I should go to Oz. :joke:
 
Watcher74 said:
We are all just part of the universe. Every molecule that makes up our body was born in the heart of a star. And one day, not too long away, we will flow back into it. Tiny parts of the universe, studying in awe the universe that we are a part of. Until we merge back into the all.
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That makes me think the Native Americans that believe in 'The One' that is nothing yet is everything, that all things make up what they call 'the Spiral' which is all-encompassing and a part of us just as we are a part of it were not too far off base, really. They have always said that man's removing himself from the closeness to the earth and the cycle of life would be our downfall. It looks like that's coming to pass. That doesn't really have anything to do with life on other planets, but it could be said that is a part of the Spiral too.
It was such a let-down to read Willi Meier's transcript that said no alien beings will come here publicly until there is no more war on this planet. I really think it would take an event such as that to make us look up from our petty squabbles and evolve to the next level.
 
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