Zombies -- Mafia #11

[Lady G]

Ewurm, you really should check back before making posts...boy's you need to work with your new friend some more...unless he is your next sacrafic.

I am a little suspicious of Ogre but I am keeping my vote on JL. I have to go to work, I'll be back at 10PM C to discuss tonights findings.

Ok, suspecious of ORGE but voting JL?

I am suspicious, but not enough to vote for Ogre yet. My vote was retaliatory for JL, and I wanted to see his response. I saw it.

Yep, and you kept your vote there must of liked the response huh?

Well, I was suspicious before, now I am starting to buy into that. You have me thinking LG.

Oh, but Ewurm didn't you say the ONLY ppl I voted for was ones you thought innocent?

I also thought this arguing with Coler was possibly a cover and possibly meant to alleviate suspicion early. My money is on Ogre right now. I just need to see more before the bell.

Oops Orge AGAIN?

John's list:

Based on what is posted above, my top three are:

jpappy789
Swayde
IceH2O

These are the last three I would pick. Don't know about Swayde, but Ice is working hard to get a zombie as far as I can tell. Here's my list:

Dangerdoll- Combative and defensive
JL- Suspicious of people I think are helping the town
Ogre- Acting shady

I vote to lynch JL66, AGAIN

Awwww! This has me running in circles. DD is a candidate for evil of mine, and so is Ogre.

This is great Ewrum, should of kept him on your list...well now he's your buddy though isn't he!

I would have to agree with that, except for two: I won't vote for myself, and I am not entirely sure about DC yet. But for right now, I think Ice and LG are sniffing out some brain eaters. I am not convinced totally on you JL. If I see someone that warrants a vote more than you, I'll be on it. Ogre, DD, and Madcraw are on the radar. We make great adversaries, so I'll stick with you for now until things change.

OH look here Ewrum me and Ice seem to be sniffing out brain eaters?

Curious to know why you are defending him. Coincidentally, you both make my list.

You're defending Ogre, but my vote is on you. It's obvious I am suspicious of him, and you defend him. Are you that convinced he is innocent? Or is he on your "TEAM"?

Both of these posts were to JL.

I'll end that possibility right now.

I retract my vote and vote to lynch Dangerdoll
I hope we're right about this, we can ill afford to lose another tonight. I have more candidates for evil than there are evils and I haven't been able to narrow it down. I suspect DD, Ogre, and JL so I am satisfied placing my vote on any of them.

Oh good job you got one, except this proves NOTHING pretty much the entire town was talking about DD! Felt safe didn't it.

Like I said Ewurm at least know what YOU have posted before saying things.

 

[Lady G]

Yes, I am voting JL...I will switch to Ewurm if others are not comfortable w/ JL but I am pretty sure it's obvious what has happened here. Someone who has named JL plenty and been VERY quiet w/ barely any opinions of his own all the sudden backs JL, became very vocal and is now saying he never thought anyone I voted for as evil they were ALL innocent in his eyes...but the only person I have voted all along until last night was JL, the only reason I came off him was because it was going no where and I wanted us to get a zombie anyway we could.
I realize I switched off Bkw, but like the charlie thing it seemed like a good idea.
So we have DC, JL, and Ewurm IMO.
Just a side note...yes I voted Coler but he also had his vote on JL many times, and yes I know I was there myself a few times...I hope everyone can see who is the true evil here!
Thoughts please!

 

[Lady G]

Geez, this sucks.

We get one and they get 1 back.

At least we got 2 townies back and I can only think it would be Ogre and Charlie.

I'm actually surprised Rb lynched Bkw, I was thinking it was going to fall to LG since she was the only one with a vote on her.
So I know I'm a suspect though its a wrong assumption. I wasn't the only one thinking Coler was zombie. Lets not jump the gun, we still have a chance and still have good suspects.

Ewurm
DC
and whoever was turned.

The only bright side is that if you do lynch me and see I'm innocent we're still ahead.

Ok, something I just noticed..Ice maybe it is you instead of JL?? Now I am worried about you, I can't believe I didn't notice this. I'm wondering now did you know bkw wasn't going to post and thought that that would leave me or Coler (someone else you KNEW innocent) as the lynch victim..notice DC never changed his vote from me, did you guy's plan this but it backfired?? WOW that sounds VERY obvious to me, now that I see that. Didn't you remember Charlie was actually LYNCHED that came out good for you didn't you since 2 other ppl already started it, it was a safe innocent vote wasn't it.

Guy's I think maybe I was wrong about JL, if I was JL I do apologize to you truely I do. Did you guy's set up Ewurm, having him attach himself to JL..knowing I would bite

I retract my vote on JL and vote to lynch Ice

 

[IceH2O]

Geez, this sucks.

We get one and they get 1 back.

At least we got 2 townies back and I can only think it would be Ogre and Charlie.

I'm actually surprised Rb lynched Bkw, I was thinking it was going to fall to LG since she was the only one with a vote on her.

So I know I'm a suspect though its a wrong assumption. I wasn't the only one thinking Coler was zombie. Lets not jump the gun, we still have a chance and still have good suspects.

Ewurm
DC
and whoever was turned.

The only bright side is that if you do lynch me and see I'm innocent we're still ahead.

Ok, something I just noticed..Ice maybe it is you instead of JL?? Now I am worried about you, I can't believe I didn't notice this. I'm wondering now did you know bkw wasn't going to post and thought that that would leave me or Coler (someone else you KNEW innocent) as the lynch victim..notice DC never changed his vote from me, did you guy's plan this but it backfired?? WOW that sounds VERY obvious to me, now that I see that. Didn't you remember Charlie was actually LYNCHED that came out good for you didn't you since 2 other ppl already started it, it was a safe innocent vote wasn't it.

Guy's I think maybe I was wrong about JL, if I was JL I do apologize to you truely I do. Did you guy's set up Ewurm, having him attach himself to JL..knowing I would bite

I retract my vote on JL and vote to lynch Ice

It was just the wrong word to use. Instead of saying I'm actually surprised Rb lynched Bkw, I was thinking it was going to fall to LG since she was the only one with a vote on her. It was meant to say I'm actually glad Rb lynched Bkw. I misused the word surprised in the context of happy.

We need to get a zombie tonight, If you lynch me they get 2 townies and without knowing if one of the returned townies came back evil we could be at 6-4 right now. Lynch me, the zombies get a turn/kill and game is basically over as it would be 4-4, the mutant needs to be very smart in who they turn.

As for the plan LG. Its a stupid plan if it were a plan. Again why would I push for Coler, a known innocent if I thought that it was going to fall to you? I would have just left good enough alone, left suspicion off myself, and gotten 2 innocents and sacrificed a zombie.

 

[DeputyChiefJR]

I'm starting to be convinced that Lady may be innocent. She's bouncing around and coming to ridiculous conclusions that she normally hasn't come to when she has evil coaches on her side. Lady, you get mad at me for not coming up with new lists but it seems like you come up with a new and completely different list every few hours. How is this helpful to the town? It creates confusion and plays right into the zombies hands by allowing them to jump on your constantly shifting suspicions. You gotta start sticking with some people and coming up with concrete reasons if yo're going to accuse to sharply. People come out and try to help and you accuse them of suddenly coming out of nowhere to add an opinion but if they don't you accuse them of not saying enough and being unhelpful to the town. What is your criteria for guilt and innocence?

 

[Madcrawdad]

A couple of things:

Firstly, some people expressed hesitation regarding whether or not we would be able to trust the new 'townies'. Until there's another zombie turn, I really think that we can. Now based on the fact that rb said 'new' townies (and it appears that the new players are 'mystery' players), we can't be sure if it's old players returning or completely new players.

Here's why I'm assuming that we can trust them for now. RB specifically calls them townies, and here's the role description of a townie:

You are a Townie. You must work together to destroy the nest of Zombies before they turn ACville into their private haven and spread to the surrounding towns.

With regard to the JL/Ice disagreement, I'm currently leaning closer toward Ice's zombieness. Keep in mind that it's not so much who he voted for, but who he did not vote for.

On Day 2, he defended DD, then tossed scum on DD, but never voted for DD

On Day 3, it really looked like he was trying to pull people off of BKW

The main hesitation I have, is that because he voted to lynch the sheriff and the mutant, that things may appear a little magnified. Even as a zombie, Ice couldn't have known that Ogre and Coler were townie power roles.

As I side note, I also agree with others on the paranoia starting to set in. As more people are turned, it definitely get's harder to figure which days to look back to for clues to build an argument. Also, whenever somebody says something like 'So-and-so is looking more innocent to me,' I start thinking 'there's who was turned...'

 

[Madcrawdad]

Here's my attempt at a scaled list...

Ice - 3
Lady G - 4
DC - 4/5
JPap - 5
ewurm - 5
Swayde - 5
JL - 5
Brains1 -10
NewTownie2 -10
Madcrawdad -10

I do realize that there's a lot of middle 5's on the list. With the sheriff dead, however, anyone is free game for turning. Any one of them could be a zombie turn. The longer we go without a zombie turn, the more likely that some of those folks could move up.

I'm probably going to vote Ice tonight, but first I'd like to hear some more from the new townies, regarding their thoughts on the game.

 

[Swayde]

Well. I got to sleep in this morning, that was great. Unfortunately after catching up on this reading, that sleep is doing me no good at all. I am still so freakin conflicted it's not even funny.

The case against Ice is good and it did seem like either Ice or Coler had to be a zombie, I went with Coler as the zombie in my thought processes and that was off, so that does leave Ice high up there on my list. DC I still am having a hard time believing you to be innocent. Your posts are all about "I I I I I" and you've been so singally focused on LG that even if you are innocent, it's hard to tell. Ewurm is surprisingly vocal, it does look a bit odd to me and I've got to consider that he was turned. JL and LG...you guys are really, truly giving me a headache lol. One minute I could swear you both are innocent, then you say something or someone points out something and I think they have got to be zombies.

I agree with Mad's assessment that the 2 new folks would seem to have to be innocents based on the fact RB called them townies and the actual role of a townie is definitely good. At least there's a little bit of peace of mind. Brains comes in right away and votes on LG though and I would really like to hear more about what his/her actual reasons are for that choice before I go and make a decision. I am watching Jpappy because I did trust him yesterday, but he could have been turned, so it's definitely worth bearing an eye on. I am looking forward to hearing from the 2nd new townie some time today.

I will be popping in and out throughout the day. My husband is off today and he wants me to play WoW with him and I have fun doing that so during downtimes I"ll check in on this game and post my thoughts =)

I am going to hold back on voting until I hear more from Brains and whomever is the other new townie since I am as close to sure I can trust them as I can be in this crazy game.

 

[IceH2O]

I know the evidence against me is staggering. I could build a case against myself that would blow your minds.

I don't think that just because someone votes for an evil every time makes them anymore innocent then someone that votes for an innocent every time is evil.

An innocent can easily vote an innocent off because they have no idea who is who.

An evil knows who is evil, as long as they are voting off the turn each night they stay in the good graces of the town. It might weaken the team in the long run but they will never be suspect now that we have no way to investigate them and it would only take 2 of them to win the game.

Don't just look at my voting, don't just look at my posting. Look at them together then try and see what the plan would have been if I was a zombie.It wouldn't add up. Every vote would solidify my evilness and heighten the suspicion on me.

If I was zombie:

Day 1

I stay on JL kill off 5 innocents that day instead of 4.

Day 2

I would have voted DD since it was a lost cause and hit Ogre that night or done nothing. How did voting for Ogre help my cause?

Day 3

Bkw and Coler haven't voted, why push for Coler and put suspicion on me when he was going to die anyway.

I'm not evil I'm just a bad townie this game. With the turns you have to scrutinize every single post and word and it automatically makes you more likely to latch on to something trivial.

 

[johnlarson66]

I can't beleive Lady G is voting for Ice.

That throws a wrench into everything.

At this point I think people should either vote Ice or vote me.

I will take the fall if Ice is innocent. He can take the fall if I am innocent.

Sounds fair enough to me.

Do not be surprised if Ice jumps on whatever player gets a vote besides him. Right now that is Lady G. She did vote for Ice, maybe she is part of the jl66 zombie team. Her thinking that I was evil was just her distancing herself from me. Ice has figured out our evil plan! Part one, vote for and kill other zombies. Part three, win.

Ice, give us a list. That way we will have some sort of refrence when you grasp for straws.