Amazon River Disaster & Global Warming Facts
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oh boy, is there sooo much more to touch on here.
"drill, baby, drill" [sarcasm]some real thinkers there!!!!!! :lipssealedsmilie:[/sarcasm]
[sarcasm]sometimes i thank g'ness we've advanced to the point we can sustain so many "intelligent individuals" (humans) on our world[/sarcasm] (pertaining only to sustainability and the technology and the raping of our planet that makes it possible)
And at the time Antarctica was much closer to the equator. Its moved down there over time, and the temperate forests died off. I am a true believer that humans have worsened or set off or sped up the natural process of global warming. Granted, it was already under way when humans arrived at the industrial revolution but i can garentee that we have helped it along quite a bit, and if we don't change our ways soon enuff we will have royally screwed ourselves and in 10 thousand years when an alien civilization finds the ruins of our world after we've ripped it apart in search of oil and water and wiped it clean in our wars with weapons better left uncreated they will look at this and think "well, at least we won't have to meet that species".
While I agree that Global Warming is a normal procces that humans did not create, I do think that right now earth has a disease, like a fish, called 'humantitis'. Its a very rare disease that causes the planets natrual balance to go out of wack, and without this natural balance the things that are a normal part of earth can become more perminent.
To explain the metaphor, i believe that because of humans destroying all of earths natural buffers this global warming will be far more devastating then any before, maybe even enuff to wipe out humans on a whole, maybe only enuff to destroy our civilization utterly. Once we fall, there is no coming back ,we've used up all the resources we have and they will not come back.
And by buffers i mean:
-The aquifers all over the planet that can keep river flowing even after the rain stops and drought sets in. Which are being drained far faster then they can fill by greedy human cities and farms.
-The rainforests that take CO2 out of the atmosphere and put oxygen back it Which we have cut down in larger numbers then ever before.
-The vast diversity of life that can survive almost anything due it the differences, which we are destroying by introducing exotic species into environments not suited or ready for them.
-The damage we are doing to the fresh water systems of our planet.
-The damage we are doing to the oceans of our planet, which help bring warmth to the colder north and coldness to the warm south, balancing the global temp.
-The damage we are doing to the landscape, flattening it out and putting big, heat and pollutant generating cities there instead.
-Fertilizers that cause deadly plankton blooms in rivers, lakes, and oceans.
-Oil spills that wipe out entire swaths of ocean.
-Deforestation that destroys species we've never even heard of or seen or documented, let alone figured out what purpose they serve in the grand design of earth.
And on top of all that, once the water runs out, and the oils starts running really low, wars will start. I bet my bottom dollar that nuclear weapons will be used, as well as many others like biological weapons and other, deadlier weapons. I bet my bottom dollar that after humans go to war over water there will be only traces of our civilization left over, even fewer then the Greeks and Romans and Aztecs and Egyptians, because the weapons we will use will wipe those things from the surface of the earth, and what little survives will degrade far quicker then anything made of granite and marble.
I know what your thinking "thats a doomsday scenario, worst case possibility". Well, IMO, its the most likely thing to happen, seeing as humans have gone to war over much lesser things in the past, and used these weapons. I, personally, hope to any and all possible gods out there that this does not happen, but I honestly think such a thing will happen, if humans are unprepared to suffer the consequences of what we have done. We are bad parasites, harming the host we depend on for survival. Now that host is sick, and we are getting the worst of it, or starting to anyway. And if that host should die... well, you can figure that out on your own.
Oh, and a very nice saying by someone i cannot remember the name of:
"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children."
Its not the older generation, not the people running governments who will be dealing with this, its the next one, my generation and those after it, that will suffer the consequences of what our ancestors have done.
"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children."
Its not the older generation, not the people running governments who will be dealing with this, its the next one, my generation and those after it, that will suffer the consequences of what our ancestors have done.
you live in the US right? Well, when the Midwest dries up and becomes a second Sahara desert, don't come complaining to me that your hungry, go to Siberia, which will be a large temperate forest and grassland area about 50-100 years AFTER the midwest has become a dust-bucket.
Yes, global warming makes colder climates farmable, but not fast enough, not soon enough to save the billions that will die of starvation without water to grow crops. And now, lets go to the Great Barrier Reef, in this warm future of yours. It will be about 10-20 feet deeper underwater then it was, and that water will be much more fresh then it was, since only freshwater is frozen in the north and south icecaps. (AFAIK)
"And to you left you can see the dead remains of the Great Barrier Reef, once among the most diverse places on earth, life-wise, now a large dead pile of coral skeletons and some fish that can still ive here. And before those corals could grow in new places farther north they were wiped out or depleted in number to much to propagate the northern waters fast enuff to save the fish species, and those fish died out, then without them to feed the oceans and humans, that food-chain collapsed. And thats why were viewing this from inside a spaceship, the air out there is to toxic for us to breath now..."
And thats my response to your post.
Hmm, lets see.
Earth is always changing eh? Well, lets tell that to the dinos, wiped out by a meteor in combination with the collision of 2 continents and the eruptions of a large number of volcanoes. And lets tell that to neanderthal and woolly mammoth, both wiped out by humans in our primitive prehistory years. And now lets tell that to the Romans, wiped out by changing religions and barbarian invasions. And next, lets tell that to the Polar Bears and Arctic Foxes and Seals and Walruses and Wales and Fish and Wolves and Alligators and all the other unnamed millions of plants and creatures wiped out or being wiped out by humans and human actions since we reached the industrial age. And now lets go tell our children and grandchildren that when, 50 years from now, they are battling each other simply to get enough food and water to survive the day. So, what do you think of you argument now?
Actually both schools of thought are right. Man is responsible but not the direct cause, and yes this is an irreversible epic earth event that is coming on slowly just like birth pains until I reaches a climax.
Just FYI......not really true on any of the current active energy producing fissioning plants in the world......
Your use of the word "respectfully" made me snort coffee out of my nose! Are you a professional comedian?
