Reptileguy that has to be the dumbest logic for fishkeeping I have ever heard. You do realise that the fish sent to MOST lfs are actually culls from those pampering fish farms you are warning people to stay away from. The reason most lfs get these fish IS because they are so cheap; because they are culls. Most lfs do not have the proper setups to care for and maintain discus once under their care so they get stunted and sickly. And yes even in the so called good fish stores they do not get the care needed...the proper nutrition, water quality, or even the correct temperatures as most fish stores are on a central filter system. So why would anyone want to buy something most fish farms sell at a dime a dozen when they can get a true representation of the species from the same exact place for might I add the same or even cheaper price from a breeder or importer. That has also not been exposed to god knows how many kind of parasites or diseases that are within the system of a lfs.