"God and religion" comment form one of the threads

[mishi8]

This is why I don't want these subjects here. I dotake offense to the idea that those who do not share Matak's faith (there are members in my immediate family, my friends, etc) are DOOMED to eternal damnation. That offends me.

Exactly.

 

[Puffernewbee]

There is good that comes from religious threads.

I used to be bothered by Sublime1184's sig because I thought those may be his beliefs. Thanks to this thread I now see that he does not truly believe in God. By not believing in God, he cannot truly believe in Satan.

There is hope.

 

[sublime1184]

Sub, here is why I push the issue, even though it might cause my removal from my beloved AC: If you were in a house that I wholeheartedly believed contained a ticking time bomb, I would do all I could to get you out. Even if you didn't believe me. Even if you found the subject of bombs to be invasive or personal or whatever else. I would have a moral obligation to get you out or at least try to convince you of the bomb.

I have a personal relationship with Jesus and I am wholeheartedly convinced of His salvation and the doom of those that reject or ignore Him.

I'll leave it at that.

While at the same time I hope this stays civil, lets think about this. (if it does, we should be fine hopefully) Believe me, I would do the same to save anyone I could, no matter race\beliefs\sex\etc....but not for the same reason. Do you have to have belief in God to do the right thing? I don't think so....I have an obligation to myself to be the best person I can be, but religion isn't for me. If you take anything away from this, let it be this : I don't think that you are wrong and I don't think I am either.

 

[ash]

I'm with Leo. Highly offensive.

 

[sublime1184]

There is good that comes from religious threads.

I used to be bothered by Sublime1184's sig because I thought those may be his beliefs. Thanks to this thread I now see that he does not truly believe in God. By not believing in God, he cannot truly believe in Satan.

There is hope.

Exactly, it is more of a statement of "do what you want if it makes you happy" not "I hate God and the Devil rules".

 

[ash]

Oh, and every religion has some sort of book.

 

[Puffernewbee]

Exactly, it is more of a statement of "do what you want if it makes you happy"

I would have to add the following to your statement:
"As long as it does not hurt anyone else"

 

[Matak]

Well Sub, I was trying to draw a parallel to shed light on my motives.

I am curious. What is so offensive about talking about the most loving person in history? I have always found that unfathomable. It is interesting. We could talk about Mohomed, Buddah, Sikh beliefs, UFO's or practically anything else under the sun with not much fur ruffling, but the moment the name of Jesus comes up, all hell breaks loose. I wonder why?

 

[sublime1184]

I do not cringe at the name or feel any different than if you said the name John or Mike......but.....

I have a personal relationship with Jesus and I am wholeheartedly convinced of His salvation and the doom of those that reject or ignore Him

its the association of the feeling "I am right, you are wrong, now burn for it" Like I said before, not a problem if you do or don't believe.

 

[ash]

It's not the Jesus. It's the tone that bothers me. And religious discussions are supposed to be off limits here.