Mafia #6.....The Play

jpappy, what more do you want from me? Read through, I've done everything I can.

I promise, I'm not mafia. If you are innocent, then anything but a JohnLarson vote pretty much screws us... because the mafia can jump on an innocent (me) at the last second.
 
Aha!
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They go their way as the Townsfolk retire for the night. Only to meet up again on their prearranged routes.

Tonight, they all have an air of accomplishment about them. Living in ACville and running just under the surface doesn't give to much noteriety.

The victim is netted and bagged, and placed in the freezer. A chilling end to the day's events in more ways than one.

Cory Lover was just an Innocent...


It's not quite worded the way I thought. I couldn't find it because it was spelled wrong lol. But it still seems to imply that the Mafia isn't made up of well-known players and I think they have been using that much to their advantage by pitting Ogre, Mad, Z and Ice up against each other so much. Yes, Ogre *could* still be Mafia, but I just can't be sure. Mad I'd give an 8.5 on the 1-10 mafia scale with 10 being Innocent.

Since this game began I have heard so many people accuse, suspect and attack each of these 4 players, myself included (it was very hard not to be suspicious of all of you at some time, you make great posts at times, but the reasonable doubt about each of you is pretty **** high) and it definitely seems like they were being played against each other.

Do you agree that the above clue might be applied to Jensons? She implies she thinks Mad is innocent and Ogre possibly Mafia responsible for snowing us and this sets up a battle between the two.
 
I'm not changing my vote, the people on Ogre right now is pretty telling.

sploke is the only one who has not voted.

Day 6: 11/12
HAS NOT VOTED: sploke
Johnlarson66: 8 -- ZSandmann (2019) Swayde (2020) plantling (2021) mee-mee (2127) Ogre (2130) joander123 (2252) KOTD (2275) MadCrawdad (2278)
Ogre: 3 – johnlarson66 (2116) KOTD (2269) Jensons (2282) Jpappy (2287)
Jpappy: 1 – Joander (1986)
Jensons: 0 – Zsandmann (1981)
Plantling: 0 – KOTD (1952)
 
Ugh sorry guys, I meant to get on last night after I got home from work but pretty much just went to bed. Glad the times weren't changed on me, I would have completely missed out. Anyway, looks like things have pretty much been decided anyway. I vote johnlarson.
 
I'm not changing my vote, the people on Ogre right now is pretty telling.

sploke is the only one who has not voted.

Day 6: 11/12
HAS NOT VOTED: sploke
Johnlarson66: 8 -- ZSandmann (2019) Swayde (2020) plantling (2021) mee-mee (2127) Ogre (2130) joander123 (2252) KOTD (2275) MadCrawdad (2278)
Ogre: 3 – johnlarson66 (2116) KOTD (2269) Jensons (2282) Jpappy (2287)
Jpappy: 1 – Joander (1986)
Jensons: 0 – Zsandmann (1981)
Plantling: 0 – KOTD (1952)

I agree that it's too late to change votes at this point. Also and I think I know what you mean about that train on Ogre. :)
 
This game is not over. There are 12 of us still playing.

At this point, I think we need to focus on me and Ogre. If we are still playing tomorrow.

I have been super busy at work, but I am able to read, post, and vote. I have never used the line "I am so confused" or "I am innocent" line. I have never even used "I am too busy" as an excuse.

Folks, these are classic mafia lines.

I look mafia because I followed ZSandmann.

There is no reason to start game 7. People do not quit game 6. We are still playing. 12 of us, that is plenty. The game is just starting to get interesting.

I know playing game 7 sounds fun, and it will be, but please do not quit this game. Seems like folks are throwing in the towel.

Please stay focused on game 6.

Today is about me versus Ogre. Please vote for one or the other. If you think that we both might be mafia, then please vote for Ogre.
 
Today is about me versus Ogre. Please vote for one or the other. If you think that we both might be mafia, then please vote for Ogre.

2 questions JL:

1) Why is today you vs. me? Until YOU started the lynch Ogre movement, it was all about you. No one even considered me as a possible target until you (in danger of being lynched) suddenly had this bright idea to get me involved. The only reason I'm a target is because there has been some squibbling about me for a while. So why again, is today me vs you... it was all you before

2) Why should anyone who believes that both of us are mafia vote for me? Heck, I can answer that one, so the innocent votes will be split and you mafia guys can suddenly switch to me and knock me out, thereby winning the game.


A point that some of you may not have considered. The mafia know exactly how many of them there are. I'm wondering if Mad's little JMax thing was to make it look like the score was better than it actually is, thereby allowing us some breathing room... and hoping we make a mistake.

How's that for a theory?
 
Day 6: 12/12
Johnlarson66: 9 -- ZSandmann (2019) Swayde (2020) plantling (2021) mee-mee (2127) Ogre (2130) joander123 (2252) KOTD (2275) MadCrawdad (2278) sploke (2294)
Ogre: 3 – johnlarson66 (2116) KOTD (2269) Jensons (2282) Jpappy (2287)
Jpappy: 1 – Joander (1986)
Jensons: 0 – Zsandmann (1981)
Plantling: 0 – KOTD (1952)

Everyone has voted, 9 hours till Night.
 
2 questions JL:

1) Why is today you vs. me? Until YOU started the lynch Ogre movement, it was all about you. No one even considered me as a possible target until you (in danger of being lynched) suddenly had this bright idea to get me involved. The only reason I'm a target is because there has been some squibbling about me for a while. So why again, is today me vs you... it was all you before

2) Why should anyone who believes that both of us are mafia vote for me? Heck, I can answer that one, so the innocent votes will be split and you mafia guys can suddenly switch to me and knock me out, thereby winning the game.


A point that some of you may not have considered. The mafia know exactly how many of them there are. I'm wondering if Mad's little JMax thing was to make it look like the score was better than it actually is, thereby allowing us some breathing room... and hoping we make a mistake. Here's my whole theory, Ogre... IF DD is mafia, I really think that townies may have a little more breathing room (1 day maybe, but ONLY if DD is mafia)....I said before DD is NOT the Don. The Don was gone earlier in the game. At one point RB gives the count as 10 v 7 yet implies townies have 2 more days. Why? Because the Don is gone, has read as an innocent, and I really think the score was 11 v 6 at that point. One mafia was gone FOR SURE, and we never got a special character read the next night, so it had to be the Don.

This probably explains why the mafia never made the move to ZSandmann on Night 5...even with mee-mee voting for Z. I stayed up pretty late that night watching the voting, and never saw the movement in votes that I expected to see.

Most would agree that mee-mee could have killed us by voting for Z. Why didn't mafia make the move late that night and finish the job? Because I don't think they had the numbers (I now believe that the score was really 9 v 6 and not 8 v 7 as most townies thought)....Charlie was camping, JPappy (probably mafia) was also MIA....I think that on night 5, until Charlie voted very late, there were probably only a maximum of 4 mafia even voting....not enough to make the move to win the game. What else could the explanation be? Victory was apparently in their grasp.

On a separate note, I think we need to keep looking hard into rb's clues...something dawned on me today. I, for one, see some clues and say 'I don't think that RB would give us that much info on the mafia....' BUT, I think RB is playing both sides of the fence. He's also giving clues to the mafia. I would say the description for BKW as detective was pretty spot-on and maybe mee-mee as vigilante also (independent? - I'm a little less sure). I'm sure the mafia noticed the clues too. But they couldn't risk taking those hits and narrowing the snitch list....doing so would have exposed their members even further.

Just theories...take them or leave them.

Responses above in blue....

I'll actually be gone for a good portion of the day today. The wife is dragging me to the beach w/ the kids. I probably won't be posting much for awhile, but the good news is that if I see Jensons, I can look out for tattoos.

Consider my theories, I really think things are starting to become much clearer than they seemed a day or two ago.
 
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