I wandered through day 1, initially looking at Ice :
post 17 first substantive thought :
Unless there is a major slip up I'm voting for the last person to post.
post 39 and one or two before is some rules talk - discussion of bodyguard, how they could protect a person who we find out is evil during the day
Post 44 : Ice lumps me and CS together as making strange posts. My comment a) there was a world of difference between mine and charlies. b) in retrospect was ice trying to start something against me; taken together with the mention of my 'sherrif' post, maybe :
If you want to start looking at out of place things the very 1st posts are mysterious to me.
Why would Charlie post darn innocent again when he knows in the past we considered that a screw up? Could it be that he has played so often we know he knows and that we'd think it was a joke? Does it automatically make us think he is innocent?
Then Coler does the same thing basically. 1st post is about how he is innocent but assumes he'll be turned. Why even put it into our heads that you're innocent?
Anyone here want to come out and say their evil? I assume everyone if given the choice would post I am normal and I guess because they posted it that we're supposed to think they are.
Then the last post about the Sheriff worries me a little bit too.
Post 55 : more of the same
No one would say they were evil, thats the point.
It does no good to say I'm innocent to begin the game.
But I'd believe Darn I'm evil again as a joke before I would Darn I'm innocent again.
Now you've posted it too. Thats 3 people claiming innocence and the game hasn't really even started.
Why do innocents want to try and confuse us this early in the game and bring suspicion upon themselves?
^ comment - I'm surprised anyone could think I brought suspicion on myself by my opening post.
Post 68 is more rules talk as is 76
Post 89 : stirs up the Coler/Ogre day 1 'discussion' lol
Anyone else worried that we just watched a Zombie commercial?
Lets attack one another but before it gets to far we'll chill out.
Scene 1 Finger pointing
Scene 2 Argument
Scene 3 Become friends
Scene 4 Low blood sugar - share brains of a Type 1 diabetic ( they have high blood sugar because they have low or no insulin)
Its to early and I doubt Ogre would freak the 1st day but it is reminiscent of some of his evil meltdowns.
I also don't understand why Coler would retract his vote after that response. It seems like he had him right where he wanted him. Do they think they pushed it to far? Coler removing his vote supposed to make us feel better about Ogres innocence or lack of?
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I'll have to mull this over, I'll place my vote either tonight or in the morning most likely. Have to think about this.
My Comment : I can see in the posts above so far ^ that Ice is taking opportunities to poke/steer/provoke discussion - of course that could be a helpful thing.
Post 106 : vote for inactive ol' charlie :
I'm getting ready to go to bed and still not sure of the Ogre/Coler battle.
For now I'm going to vote to lynch Charlie based solely on his darn I'm innocent again post. He should know better and I think its more reverse psychology then just a joke.
Subject to change tomorrow after more info becomes available.
Post 133 : vote for Charlie is explained, Ice says he would vote Ogre over me otherwise at this time and he is 95% sure he will be home to change votes 'if any evidence presents itself'
Post 157 : change to JL
After looking at posts and reasonings I'm kind of on the fence here.
My suspects are in no order
Ogre - his meltdown, though I doubt he would freak so early on Day 1 it bears watching. He might have been found out but when no one else jumped the train he calmed down.
LG- as pointed out by Mad, hypocrisy in her posts. Baiting on disagreements.
JL- the nonchalant attitude about the lynchings of the 1st day. The no real evidence, I see a lot of possible evidence, and lack of discussion on any of it.
Charlie- the "trap", knowing that mostly innocents would be most likely to point it out why was he trying to trap anyone. Luckily most have been desensitized to such posts. I think he was trying to instill a fear of voting for him. He is a veteran and knows or thinks most of us would take that as a joke and just blow it off and accept he is an innocent.
DC- voting just to vote and then using because she has fooled me in the past is something I see as trying to get rid of a good player.
The lack of posting is really hurting the town as we have nothing to go on. I don't want my 1st nightfall vote to be based solely on a gut feeling.
But for now it is that and because of the lackadaisical attitude of John Larson and not even trying to comment on anything going on I vote to lynch JL
Give some good insight or ideas and this could very well change.
my comment ^ can't see any new evidence that would make him change from Charlie - I do notice that not so many if any people were getting on board to Charlie train at this point but there were votes for JL (at least ewurm)
170 is at Lady G
Wow defensive huh? Pointing out something and protecting yourself before even being called on it? Didn't I get lynched for that? Wasn't I evil that game?
Then again more defense running, you'd think she'd drop it by now instead of bringing it up over and over.
Prove your innocent and bring us suspects and quit protecting yourself. There aren't that many votes on you to be worried about.
note : 171 is Ogre voting for Charlie for playing uncharacteristically
172 is ice at JL, who he is currently voting for :
So instead of discussing if Ogre or Colers fight might be Coler nailing Ogre or 2 zombies distancing themselves you're just going to write it off?
Instead of discussing Mads thoughts on LG you're just going to ignore it?
Instead of discussing thoughts on Charlies Darn I'm innocent post you're going to sit back and vote for a Vikings fan?
I will admit you do usually sit back on Day 1 but to say theres nothing to really discuss is BS. There are lots to discuss and to not care if you die an innocent is a bad attitude to have. Why bother playing if you're going to think that way?
at post 190 day 1 this was the votes :
to lynch....
mad (1) by bkw 74
jpap (1) by sway 84
jl66 (3) by ewurm 116 ice 157 lady 145
lady (2) by DC 85 mad 140
ewurm (1) by jl66 110
cs (1) by ogre 171
ogre (2) by coler 121 DD 144
sway (1) by jpap 180
12 of 15 townies voting....
3 not voting.... charlie, guppy and KOTD
about 90 minutes to nightfall...
PMs and e-mails as required....
comment : JL, Lady G, Ogre have votes at this stage. With only 2 zombies, if any of them was a zombie, they would be mighty, miighty worried, particularly if they were chief zombie. Further comment, as it turned out, charlie, guppy, KOTD ended up dead anyway.
Now I will also track vote changes :
191 : jpappy changes from Swayde to Charlie. Charlie is now at 2 votes. This is based on Charlie not posting much.
196 : Swayde takes her vote of jpappy and switches to Charlie. Her post is worthy quoting
I can see it going both ways here. If Charlie doesn't come back and post a vote then yeah, he's going to die and the vote would be wasted. Or, it could be a safe vote because odds are we're going to take out a townie tonight with our lynch, there are only 2 out of 15 players that are evil. Heck the odds are more likely of us lynching a power role than it is to hit a zombie *cringes* However, it's not like Charlie to not show up and cast a vote and he really does look quite suspicious so far. There's been no weasle kicking and no early vote to get reactions and I have been very tempted to vote for himself several times today.
The more I think about it, the more I actually agree with a vote on Charlie.
I retract my vote on Jpappy and vote to lynch Charlie.
Ice at 197 changes from JL to charlie
Ok I thought it was worded differently and I kind of agree with Ogres top 3 but not DD. I didn't really think DC until his last post coupled with the others. Looks like he is trying to protect Charlie by buying him another day.
I'm going to jump off JL, and go back to Charlie since DC has no following. Might as well get 1 zombie tonight.
I retract my vote on JL and vote to lynch Charlie
Comment : these changes happened within 20 - 25 minutes, however
there are only 2 zombies at this time so it can't be seen as a zombietrain.
Post 201 : Ice provides the best reason for voting Charlie
As hard as its going to be to find a zombie when there are only 2 I'd be more then glad to vote out a person that is going to die an untimely death. Thats 1 less innocent we might lose. If we vote wrong lose one to death and then lose 1 to the zombies we're out 3. Bad enough KOTD and Gup haven't voted yet.
This setup just about screams lynch the untimely death crowd, at least until the zombies get numbers, we get more info and its easier to hit them.
Post 205 Ogre is saying there will be surge of zombie votes : note,
there are only 2 zombies. This is a passive-aggressive post, accusing those yet to vote
I'm predicting a sudden surge of votes and I think they'll be zombies and I'm pretty sure they'll decide who goes out tonight.
Just remember charlie's weirdness if he skates today.
post 213 Ogre :
Well, if you can get consensus on a player that we all think is zombie, then we'll listen.
^ I recall Ogre using this attempted line when mafia 'ok if you have a suspect at 2 on your list and I have them at 3 and someone else also at 2 then we should vote for them becuase they're the best suspect'.
And that kind of is it as regards day 1
DD made the last post of note :
Ice, are you suggesting killing of the power roles?
So...I started looking at Ice and trying to find reasons he was zombie...not much there in the end. I have kind of lead myself however back to Ogre and DD as our day 1 zombie team, which was where I was on day 1.
I would like your thoughts please
