Zombies -- Mafia #11
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The quiet people are low on my list because it's difficult, if not downright impossible to get a good read on them. If they are townies and would like to win the game, they have got to get involved. If they are zombies then hopefully goading them into posting more will get them to slip up or we can detect a change in their views and opinions to see if they might have been changed.
As for Bkw, he'd make a great turn candidate, if he didn't begin a zombie. He is notoriously a low poster and in every game I've been in with him has been able to make it to the end or at least, very far into the game. I am highly concerned that he posted quite a bit day 1 and has since been almost silent. I don't like his suspects because I don't agree with them at all and he didn't really give much reason for them, and I really dont' like that he voted for Jpappy when there were many other way more suspicious people out there and especially since I truly believe Jpappy is or at least was, a townie.
Lady G is still claiming that she never defended/spoke to the innocence of DD:
Here she explains that DD is hard for her to read...goes on to say that she thinks that DD is innocent...
Floats the idea that even when she looks scummy that DD may be an innocent...(and even when he appears innocent, Mad could be scum)
Again, her scumdar is off....DD and Mad are frequently the opposite of how they appear. DD looks scummy this game? Oh, she could be innocent then..
Here she's lumping Ogre/Mad/JL together. Claims that if she were mafia w/ DD, they wouldn't have been so obvious. There really wasn't anything obvious in those posts above...but the idea was put out there. DD, on the other hand, was obvious...that's why she's no longer with us.
Also claims that JL or myself are maybe misleading Ogre... If anyone believes that Ogre is being mislead, they should review the posts. Ogre was 1st to post the idea of DD/LG and possibly Ice working together.
Now LG starts trying to turn the tables...she knows that DD is evil. Ogre/Mad/JL have tossed DD under the bus (even though there's only 3 zombies at the time). If she KNEW DD was a zombie then, why didn't she vote for her?
Here's the post where she says 'vote for me, even though I'm innocent'. Huh? By this point she says that DD is scum. So let's see....her plan is to lynch herself (innocent, she claims). Someone already pointed this out, but wouldn't the logical thing to do if you were innocent be to vote the KNOWN zombie off 1st, and then try to prove your innocence further on the following day?
Here she claims that she never defended DD...I say that she has.
I vote to lynch Lady G
Here she explains that DD is hard for her to read...goes on to say that she thinks that DD is innocent...
Floats the idea that even when she looks scummy that DD may be an innocent...(and even when he appears innocent, Mad could be scum)
Again, her scumdar is off....DD and Mad are frequently the opposite of how they appear. DD looks scummy this game? Oh, she could be innocent then..
Here she's lumping Ogre/Mad/JL together. Claims that if she were mafia w/ DD, they wouldn't have been so obvious. There really wasn't anything obvious in those posts above...but the idea was put out there. DD, on the other hand, was obvious...that's why she's no longer with us.
Also claims that JL or myself are maybe misleading Ogre... If anyone believes that Ogre is being mislead, they should review the posts. Ogre was 1st to post the idea of DD/LG and possibly Ice working together.
Now LG starts trying to turn the tables...she knows that DD is evil. Ogre/Mad/JL have tossed DD under the bus (even though there's only 3 zombies at the time). If she KNEW DD was a zombie then, why didn't she vote for her?
Why because you want to change each one before they are voted for..thus in the long run making it look like you were right all along. I don't know why I didn't think of this before..it is You, JL and Mad isn't it I believe I just nailed your plan right on the head too.The only way this could be wrong I believe is IF DD is evil, and going along for a sacrifice...Oh that would work out nicely wouldn't it...DD is evil, posts she thinks I am innocent KNOWING this would draw attention and most likely get some votes her way, Ice I believe fell in there because he also thought JL was evil, so you get the town to vote off DD, then come back the next day say "see DD was evil" so LG has to be to...the town follows you, I get lynched since I was "changed" I show up evil also..then you get the grand finale with Ice!!! Or at this point is the game over Orge you know the numbers so well. So DD were you the one changed last night
Here's the post where she says 'vote for me, even though I'm innocent'. Huh? By this point she says that DD is scum. So let's see....her plan is to lynch herself (innocent, she claims). Someone already pointed this out, but wouldn't the logical thing to do if you were innocent be to vote the KNOWN zombie off 1st, and then try to prove your innocence further on the following day?
Here she claims that she never defended DD...I say that she has.
I vote to lynch Lady G
Good case there Mad. You picked out pretty much all the little things that have been nagging me about LG for awhile and what had caused me to agree with Ogre's assertations that DD/LG and possibly Ice were the 3 zombies.
What are your thoughts on Bkw? What are your thoughts on the rest of the players still left in the game?
What are your thoughts on Bkw? What are your thoughts on the rest of the players still left in the game?
You can say I defended DD all you want, you can twist my meanings all you want I know I didn't, and when you get the town to vote me they will see. Unless of coarse you have changed me by then. If they vote me tonight you I believe KNOW I will come up innocent. But guess what they will all be after you, and JL so IF I'm lynched tonight I'm sure you can kiss your game goodbye.
Really Swayde it's not a "good" case it's the same post he has posted over and over and over and over...he has nothing else AT all, I on the other hand HAVE pointed out various thought's on him and JL..they both come back with the SAME exact post everytime they post about me. IF I was evil wouldn't there be more than those same 3-4 post?
Anyway on with other stuff now. You say you are wary of BKW, I would much rather go for JL of coarse because I am about 98.9% sure he is evil. BUT Bkw looks to be also to me along with mad, if others would rather go for one of them I would be willing to move my vote over to them. They are the only 3 I would really feel comfortable with.
I just want to STRESS it is JL I want to go with and will leave my vote on until others have gave some opinions.
I have 2 issues with your response. First, he didn't mention Sploke, he said that you said you never defended/spoke of DD.
The second issue is you seem to STILL be defnding DD...
I seriously doubt it was a planned slip up. When I was evil with DD there was no strategy at all. It was, play as if you are innocent and just try not to slip up. That was her plan from the beginning. In every game I've been in, DD has dropped hints about her role if she has one, or slipped up big time if she is evil. I can easily see her making the mistake of saying that you were both innocent trying to win you over to her way of thinking. What I haven't decided yet is if she did that to try and implicate you or if she really truly screwed up big time and let us know you were innocent since she clearly was evil or if she did it completely and deliberately to make us think you are innocent when you were both evil, especially since you keep saying how ya'll two would never be so obvious.
I know that might not make sense. Basically what I am trying to say is that she most likely slipped and gave herself away and also revealed you as an innocent.... if it was a plan though then you most likely are not innocent. I don't think DD's much for planning which is why I am not 100% convinced you are evil.
This is the thought that has kept me from voting for you.
Something bugs me about JL's list...Actually a couple of things. This list was obviously before DD went down and showed up as Zombie...So a new list would be greatly appreciated JL..
Okay, first I find it incredibly odd that he doesn't have himself listed as the highest innocent. I know that when I was evil, I really didn't want to lie at all, and I don't believe I ever did. So it's possible JL doesn't wish to lie either and so he gives himself only a 5 instead of a 10, not sure why he wouldn't give himself a 10 if he's truly a townie, everone else does no matter what their true alignment and nobody ever says anything about it.
Okay I am also concerned with the fact that DD wasn't in his top 3, but he did slip her in as the 4th to keep her high enough up there and appear like he had a suspicion of her. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, because DD was after Ewurm, so if he agreed with her on Ewurm, which he clearly thinks Ewurm is evil, then why would he be so suspicious of DD? Not sure why he'd go after Ewurm with DD unless he truly thought she was innocent, and if he did, why is she a 4? It can also be flipped, why would they both go after Ewurm when a connection could easily be made unless they really believed they could get him lynched, or they were trying to distance to cover up his role, heck he could be lead zombie, but then again so could a few of you
I don't know why and I don't understand why Ice his top suspect and yet his vote ended up on Lady G.
I know I am posting a lot. I am worried. Ogre kept trying to warn us that the game could end as a loss to the town on night 3 and according to my calculations, it's a very definite possibility unless we can figure out at least 1 or 2 of the current zombies and lynch one tonight to keep us in the game, or unless a mircale occurs from that green stuff. This was looking very difficult for us to win from the get-go, then we lost a few townies on day one and that really put a hurtin on us, now it's crunch time and we've got find the evil to save our town.
Okay, first I find it incredibly odd that he doesn't have himself listed as the highest innocent. I know that when I was evil, I really didn't want to lie at all, and I don't believe I ever did. So it's possible JL doesn't wish to lie either and so he gives himself only a 5 instead of a 10, not sure why he wouldn't give himself a 10 if he's truly a townie, everone else does no matter what their true alignment and nobody ever says anything about it.
Okay I am also concerned with the fact that DD wasn't in his top 3, but he did slip her in as the 4th to keep her high enough up there and appear like he had a suspicion of her. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, because DD was after Ewurm, so if he agreed with her on Ewurm, which he clearly thinks Ewurm is evil, then why would he be so suspicious of DD? Not sure why he'd go after Ewurm with DD unless he truly thought she was innocent, and if he did, why is she a 4? It can also be flipped, why would they both go after Ewurm when a connection could easily be made unless they really believed they could get him lynched, or they were trying to distance to cover up his role, heck he could be lead zombie, but then again so could a few of you
I don't know why and I don't understand why Ice his top suspect and yet his vote ended up on Lady G.I know I am posting a lot. I am worried. Ogre kept trying to warn us that the game could end as a loss to the town on night 3 and according to my calculations, it's a very definite possibility unless we can figure out at least 1 or 2 of the current zombies and lynch one tonight to keep us in the game, or unless a mircale occurs from that green stuff. This was looking very difficult for us to win from the get-go, then we lost a few townies on day one and that really put a hurtin on us, now it's crunch time and we've got find the evil to save our town.
Originally Posted by johnlarson66
I am more concerned about Lady G, Ice and ewurm at this point.
I am a little cloudy on the DD stuff, except she claimed to KNOW that Lady G was innocent.
So here is a scaled list:
Ice - 2
lady g - 3
ewurm - 3
dangerdoll - 4
bkw - 5
jl66 - 5
ogre - 5
jpap - 5
sway - 5
coler - 6
Deputy - 6
Mad - 6
I would like to vote for one of my top three.
