THE PLAY: Mafia #16 'Till death do we part...

LG

Sorry but even the best of us have bad days.

I'm supposed to be one of the top players according to you guys. I remember a game where I was innocent and didn't have a vote on a mafia player once.

DD could be burnt out. DD could be having a bad game.

I take a game off every once in a while for this reason.

There are other days to come for DD to be investigated or slip up more. I just don't feel at this moment theres enough to go on.

If she is lynched and found mafia I'll eat crow. Can't be right everytime.

But I'd rather be wrong later and find out she was mafia then lynch an innocent that could help us now and be wrong.
I'll ride this train Ice, i am not comfortable voting for DD or Liz. My vote for Paul is useless. Jpap twisting the posts to reinforce his case is scummy enough for me.
I retract my vote for Paul, and vote to lynch Jpap
 
I'll ride this train Ice, i am not comfortable voting for DD or Liz. My vote for Paul is useless. Jpap twisting the posts to reinforce his case is scummy enough for me.
I retract my vote for Paul, and vote to lynch Jpap


i think that this is suspicious enough in its own. DD and Jpap have both slipped up in speech, only DD's was way worse.... and you jump on the jpap train with old buddy ice? Might have just found mafia suspect number 3.
 
Just a quick run down of why I feel a DD is vote worthy:

ok, I didn;t know if things were going to come up so quickly but apparently in everyone's giddyness to get the game rolling, I found something that peaked my interest.

here, Jo says she feels Kuhli had a great find... gee I am hoping she is not talking about the whole "beat the movers" thing. If that wasn't a twist of words, I dunno what was. Nonetheless, she says kuhli is a 1, most innocent.


Here, Jo says, let's get the ball moving... throws a vote out for, you guessed it, kulhi. But why, after all , she did have kuhli as most innocent. She never did explain that maybe she was thinking incorrectly or if she agreed with anything... only that ok, she may be jumping a newbie and it will probably change... I dunno.... it's not something I would do even just to throw out a ball if I thought someone was that innocent as to be a 1.


I just may venture to vote Jo... I think I will..... I vote to lynch Joander (subject of course, to change)

Jo.... did I just mess up the nuptuals?

I will go back and checking when I get some more time. I have a doctors appointment this afternoon and need to do some errands, I will check after then.


Liz mentions "Mafia" in her posts a lot, maybe as an internal thing that she needs to in order to be at one with her guilt. Here she goes....mentions mafia.... a spin


mafia again with another spin
ummmm not sure why she posted a pic of a mafia guy.... maybe she is obsessed?

and mafia again. Here she makes a statement which makes no sense at all especially because she is new to the game. Shesays if she were mafia, she'd want tomake it obvious.... I am not sure if she already has or what she is saying.

Sorry Liz, you have posted nothng but suspicious posts.... I remove my vote on kuhli and vote to lynch Liz
First the retract on the wrong name, this is what starts it. Also note that she also mentions Liz has posted nothing but suspicious posts at this point. (which I do agree she was suspicious). I am pointing this out for later in this post.

if you all feel that way, then by all means, lynch me. I don't know if I would feel that same way. For the record, I was loaded with work this morning and trying to be helpful, trying to put things out for the town to discuss. There's nothing I think that should be swept under the carpet for a reason such as "so and so is new, pardon them"... All I can say and I know it's cliche but it will be a mistake. Mark my words.
Actually 3 things I want to point out here, 1) You know DD would be all over someone retracting a vote on the wrong person. 2)Her second excuse of the day. 3) No one had said anything about letting a newb off the hook.

where am I saying the list is acceptable?? I voted for you for the list, I also voted for Jo. Where did I say the list was acceptable. I voted for Jo simply for different reasons BECAUSE of the list. No twisting please, Pappy.
My initial feeling was that the post wasn't sarcastic which resulted in my vote.
Ok, here she say's she voted for him because of "the list" (in a different game). and also voted for Jo because of his list this game, but in the same post says she voted for different reasons BECAUSE of the list???? Now didn't she JUST say she voted him b/c of a list and Jo b/c of a list??? Or am I reading this wrong??

darn, sorry Jo... I was looking at how rb wrote "Joan" and remembered I called someone a he last game and it turned out to being a she...

no, didn't pick up on the sarcasm though, thanks for the explanation.
Here she thanks him for the explanation.

This is always said... give the newbies a break, they're nw. Well, these games have been around enough for everyone to read them. If the newbies are in the game, I would think they would at least half figure they know what they are getting into. Newbies don't get automatic points. There is no reason why Judge's random picks would not pick up on a newbie just because they are new.



I failed to pick up on sarcasm. Please. You mean to tell me that Jo's list of 2 players was sarcastic? I still dont see it as such. Sorry.




What I will say in my defense is that I admit that I did say to unvote Kuhlie, instead of Jo but it was a complete mistake. The thing is, I intended on moving my vote and was never solid on Jo... or I was as solid on Jo as I was on Kuhli. When I left that post, I was on my way out the door and just wanted to at least put the thoughts that I found out there on the table for discussion. It was interesting enough to at least talk about for possible mafia.

I made this case after lots of people had already voted for her and found these to be justifiable in including my vote on her. I voted with reason.
Ok, now she is back to not seeing the sarcasm. Also says something again about no one wanting to vote newbs, but many have votes on Liz at this point who is a newb. Also another "excuse" she was on her way out the door, which may be true and I do believe but this is the 3rd time she has used an excuse...DD the one who jumps on anyone with "excuses"? Also note the reference to her vote on Liz.

I get it now that everyone had said it Pappy... but it's funny how you can't see it from my viewpoint. Talk about tunneled vision.
Oh, now she DOES get the sarcasm?

nice find, blue...

if it's any consolation, Liz, I love ya girl! And I think your eyes are amazing :)

I will also say that is new in G's sig...

thanks Liz
Here she says what a great find for blue..my sig? Then states it is new, well really it isn't all that new, I did have it toward the end of last game, the orange in color is new but the sig itself is not new.

try looking back a couple pages, Pappy, there are pages of you on me and no one else (note the comma). I have noted on at least one of them where you twist..... and don't even let me get started on your pounding on me and belittling my intelligence for me not "getting" the "sarcasm" that you so quickly got..., with the whole telling Liz, I am "blending in" because I am mafia, asking if anyone else can see it, kinda pushing that I am so suspicious because of the whole vote mixup....., dropping that issue and then bringing it up again, my guess is to keep it on the forefront because of how well you are playing on a mistake...., accusing me of voting on something which I found in the past to be unacceptable..., jumping and claiming I am going to say "me too me too" when someone else agreed that they read the post as not sarcastic to them as well, and by the way with the whole "not you, you're too good for that, you know better DD" attitude, welcome to my life Pappy. I am not perfect. Still you carry on pages later about how I didn't get that this "post was so obviously sarcastic"..., and then to the final blow of which Ice called you out on and you apologized for. Push on, pappy, please. Would you care for me to quote all of these for you?



the retraction comes because I don't feel I have enough evidence on her at this time. I would like to be more sure of someone to be mafia. Explain why you had the idea that I was so "hot-to-trot". I was not the first to vote. I saw votes and only quoted some things from her to discuss.
Now she retracts her vote on Liz b/c she doesn't have enough evidence...but didn't she say everything Liz posted was mafia?? Why now does she not feel this way?
 
ok ice... jump on me all you want, but again... LG spoke my exact thoughts. I feel the exact same way as her on this, call me a follower if you want to, but she just went through all of the trouble of making the exact case i tried to get through to all of you, but apparently it didnt work.

Good work LG.
 
Wrong again Jo. DD slipped up in speech, Jpap twisted the posts. Twice.

Chas can you not see the other inconsistencies DD has made? I mean come on at least other people have acknowledged them.

Why are you not comfortable voting for her? Besides the fact that you are voting for me...
 
And DD DIDNT TWIST WORDS!?!? They both slipped up and almost identical ways! DD missed my sarcasm (which if she was following along was very hard to miss) and jpap missed a comma (which is easily missed by reading to fast).

Ask yourself what is easier to miss, a whole entire thought and mood of a post, or a silly little curved line in the post that just happens to change the meaning of the post. I think you know the answer.

Also, DD had had more than just 1 suspicious posts.
 
Ice your defending DD a awful lot here, if she is innocent I'm thinking maybe you are not and she was your intended sig other...didn't you make a point to mention you don't think the "experienced" would not team up...was this a reverse thing for you?
 
Charlie... no one is certain of anything at this point, its night 1. You cant be certain UNLESS you ARE mafia, so no one is certain.... but given the information DD is the best choice, or at least in my opinion she is.
 
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