Mafia #18 The Santa Game

[Lady G]

Wow, that took forever to go through!!! This is going to be a long one.

I want to start with, Jmax...I hope everything goes good for you, I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. As soon as you are able please post and let us know you are ok.

If you say so... you chose to use the word "fairy" and you;d know if you got the right PM that the PC term is "Elf". I'm going to my tree to bake some friggin cookies now.

Obviously this has been talked about quite a bit, but I am mentioning it now since I really haven't been around to comment when others did. I don't know why he would make this comment really.

I have a great time with my nephews, nieces, great nephews and nieces.. I fill them full of sugar, shake them up and send them back home to my brothers and sisters.. :headbang2:

Ok, Clown this is just evil!!!

I think Coler might have a point Madcrawdad, you said that hunting down Blitzen is scummier than trying to hunt down the evil elves, but you have never mentioned hunting them down yourself. Only critizing those who wanted to go after Blitzen, I think I might second Coler, only becuase that seems to weird. If I am on later also I will review. But I think I will say I vote to lynch Madcrawdad.

Are you saying that it's not scummier to hunt down Blitzen then the evil elves?? I just don't get the vote. Looks more like agreeing and following to me. Made me kinda wonder is she evil trying to "attach" to an innocent, or following b/c they are team mates. Coler said he was voting b/c he thought night was a day sooner...did she also think this, if so is it b/c they were "chatting" or did she see his post and think that also so voted who he voted for just because??

Here are my thoughts....

After day 3, we will know Blitzen's status (townie or scum) for sure:

- If a townie turns up dead from the Blitzen bomb, Blitzen remains an innocent.
- If no dead townie from the Blitzen bomb, Blitzen has gone to the dark side.

Either way, we'll know their status. A pre-emptive strike really doesn't make sense IMO, as we'll be looking for a townie at this point.... Makes more sense to look for scum, and let Blitzen worry about Blitzen for the time being.

I just pulled this post to make my own point about "Blitzen", another thing I realize has already been discussed but I have a point I would like to make. No, I don't think we should waste time in trying to find and lynch this person, it would just waste time we could use for finding evils. The only thing I can see as being a good point of this one would be IF he/she hits a innocent and kills them, at least they remain innocent and do not turn to the evil side.

I retract my vote for madcrawdad

and I vote to lynch Clown Lover

This raised my eyebrow quite a bit, wasn't Coler all over the "unexplained" vote for him? Then he comes on and vote someone with no explaination what so ever, I just find this very strange...to get all over someone for doing something and then turning around and doing just that.

I am thinking as follows :

Ice has agreed with or explained Mad and HN...if this means they can talk this is either great news or really really awful news for the town...I don't know yet.

Bethkira is following a lot, poking somewhat and I find her suspicious.

I also find Judgemax suspicious :



*sniff* - scummy.

and my vote is on clown lover

Then his next post say's what he thinks on a few other ppl, but still no reason for his vote on CL?

eh, I dont know. Hn is a good enough player imo to not have to "toy" with us to get through to the end of the game...

Did he not "toy" with us last game Pap??

Yes, that is exactly what I was and am stating.



Didn't take long to join in here huh? You and Charlie both know my posting schedule from past games.





It wasn't a joke (except for the Keebler part). Is it "dodgy".



Spewing rumor and confusion I see. I'm feigning surprise.



No, I'm not and why would you want Santa to out themselves?












So, my list so far....

Charlie, Judge, Blue, Lady G, & Ice.

Maybes on Coler and Niko.

Some "gut feel" (feel free to bash me for it, some reading, and some other factors. Yes, I named 7, no I don't believe it's 100%.

I need to review the Blitzen BS talk. That was either thrown out there or fed for purposes on confusing things IMO.

HN, makes this post AFTER RB has posted about Jmax, yet he is questioning her and CS here?

I retract my vote on Coler and vote to lynch Charlie.

But why, you and Coler are both posting votes with no reason HN?

at this point yes...but tomorrow may be different I dont know. I voiced my opinion and I have been seeing different gameplay from you.

yeah you didn't really see...you just jumped on me the minute I voted Clown Lover...you have a think about it though and see what you come up with.

I still am looking for your "reason" to vote CL? Not saying I don't see evil in him, but when/where are your reasons for voting him??

Here coler I'll help your train...

I vote to lynch Clown-Lover..

OK, CL that just made you look worse

Some crazy reason which now that i think about it makes no since, i thought we wanted to find santa, to help him...again miss read sorry...I was reading and posting inbetween CAD commands...lol

I'm wondering if you were "confused" because you were posting between "chats" were you and your buds talking about finding Santa??

Morning I spent half my night in the emergency room and I am now on vicodin, so I won't be posting much today things look a little funny.
(off game)
I hope JM is alright she will be in my thoughts.
(on game)
now all those posts from Coler I am not a follower, I do not blend in I have not voted to lynch anyone else that people have. I am a newbie and as far as retracting my vote it was because I made a statement that was false so I unfairly voted Madcrawdad. So I say this nicely back off, my opinion is my opinion. I will find the exact thread and post them.
Also I have read all the posts I missed and I will admit that I am lost and confused. But I will make a vote at nightfall

Ok, first I would like to say I hope you are feeling better now.
You have said some very troubling things though here, you say I have not voted to lynch anyone else that people have? So, did you change your mind on him because you now think he is not evil...or did you retract just because you were being questioned about it?
You also say you made a statement that was false why would you do this if you were an innocent (make a false statement)?
And really you need to vote BEFORE nightfall not AT nightfall, or were you planning to wait and see who the leading vote getting will be and jump on them?

Really, I'm not sure what to think of HN right now.

Coler- well doing exactly what you get on someone else for doing makes me question you quite a bit.

Clown- Voting yourself...I mean come on, you know that is scummy. Yes, I know you retracted your vote on yourself but really to even do it in the first place is just flat out annoying.

Andi-Sorry dear, but I am finding your post as evil, I think you may be my first vote.

Bethkira-You may not be, but you really seem to be following, this being your first game...I can see trying to figure things out, but I think you may be being guided as well.
I would have to say my highest suspects at this time would be:
Andi
Bethkira
Coler
Clown
Niko
I know I didn't add Niko's posts but the interaction between him, DD and Blue just peeked my suspicions of him. At the same time I look and wonder are the three of them trying to distance from each other?

 

[IceH2O]

I think she is serious lol.

Not only does it look scummy but how can you look at the thread and say you have no feelings of evil from anyone?

I believe you even posted a list of suspects. Was that just to keep the heat off you and make it look like you're really trying?

I would have at least expected you to vote for someone on your list.

(game off)

My thoughts are on these people:
Coler
atnixon
maybe hn not sure yet
and Madcrawdad

If you think one of them might be evil then why not place a vote. Do you know they aren't evil and don't want to be a vote on them when they show up as innocent?

 

[Lady G]

I don't know who to vote for I don't have enough info, so wheather this looks scummy or not I am not going to vote for someone that I am not sure of, so I am voting for
I vote to lynch bethkira2000

Ok Bethkira, now I know your new and all. You PM from RB should explain to you if you are innocent or evil....ummm that 's how you know what you are. Are you SAYING you are evil and want to rid the town of evils, if so by all means leave your vote on yourself.
Did you not see how everyone jumped on Clown for voting himself?

I was thinking my vote would land on Andi, but now I just don't know.

 

[IceH2O]

So far I'm counting 7 non voters

Kuhli
Plant
Grins
Gup
LG
KOTD
Sploke



Theres only like 3 hours left till night fall.

 

[Lady G]

I don't know who to vote for I don't have enough info, so wheather this looks scummy or not I am not going to vote for someone that I am not sure of, so I am voting for
I vote to lynch bethkira2000

So far I'm counting 7 non voters

Kuhli
Plant
Grins
Gup
LG
KOTD
Sploke



Theres only like 3 hours left till night fall.

I know Ice, I just am not sure at this time who I want to land my vote on. I'm thinking Andi, but then Bethkira comes out and votes herself...really throwing me for a loop here. First I was thinking she looked evil, but is new and I wasn't sure if she was just trying to get a feel for the game or not, then after Clown votes himself, everyone gets on him, she comes back and vote herself saying she is the only one she knows for sure???? Is she saying she is evil and doesn't want to play.

 

[Blueiz]

I don't know who to vote for I don't have enough info, so wheather this looks scummy or not I am not going to vote for someone that I am not sure of, so I am voting for
I vote to lynch bethkira2000

OK..wow, thats all i have to say about this. Is this a newbie mistake? Or should we look to see who has the most votes at the time this post was made to see if attention is trying to be taken off the top lynch for the night?

 

[Reefscape]

Niko, I see your point....but I've played enough games that, if i were evil, I wouldn't need to take orders from anyone.

That was always going to be the most obvious response for you to make Sploke, yet still you fail to back up all your suspicions with evidence...AGAIN....

 

[Lady G]

Well, I am taking her post as saying "I am evil" so unless/until something else comes up to make me feel differently I vote to lynch Bethkira. I'm not liking this but how can I not vote her, she seems to point blank be saying she is evil.
This is subject to change of coarse.

 

[Reefscape]

I don't know who to vote for I don't have enough info, so wheather this looks scummy or not I am not going to vote for someone that I am not sure of, so I am voting for
I vote to lynch bethkira2000

OK..wow, thats all i have to say about this. Is this a newbie mistake? Or should we look to see who has the most votes at the time this post was made to see if attention is trying to be taken off the top lynch for the night?

Why do i somehow get the feeling that Bethkira has been told to vote for herself..this does not make sense to me at all this close to nightfall..

 

[gupman]

Ok now you may think I'm jumping on a train But i think I Vote To Lynch Cl...I am new to this but I have call it a gut feeling he is evil..Voting for himself the woois me posting.Well he did help make me decide on who is first in my book....