Mafia #19 50/50

[johnlarson66]

WTH! Why was Blue so on JMax??? And then she kept trying to tie me to LG, something I thought was scummy. Sorry Blue, I read you so wrong. And losing JM and JP also really hurts us.

I realize that I must look scummy now, but all I can do is try to show that I am aligned w/the town. I believe Brains is too. That makes it 5 innocents, 6 Mafia. We stand a good chance of hitting a Mafia next nightfall. I think from RB's narration, DD might have been a communicating Mafia.

If we hit and or lynch the last two by end of day 4 then I don't think they get a hit in night 4.

My List:
Andi
Beth
DC

Andi and DC for their votes on JM day 1. Beth for her hisitation to vote DD.

First off, Blue was not so on judgemax. She did not even vote for judgemax. She was just pointing out that we could not 100% trust judgemax being innocent just because of the dangerdoll lynch. Lady G had posted this before and anyone who has played before knows that this could have been an option and it was something good to talk about.

Judgemax's vote on Blue was suspicous and I think she was a little maniplated by making the post. People were making a bigger deal out of her saying it than others.

I think the town needs to get 2 solid names to put up and go from there. The mafia can control the votes at this stage, so if we stop them from spreading everyone out then we have a better chance of seeing where they line up.

My top chioces are:

Beth
Niko
Andi
Plantling

I also think DC and Marbri are not to be trusted.

Now that I have made six new friends, I will change my vote again and call it a night. I hope the town can make this day a two person race.

I retract my vote to lynch andi and vote to lynch Plantling.

I would like to see other peoples lists and my vote is up for change. What would be good if everyone put up a list of four and then voted for their top, then we can adjust as needed.

 

[Reefscape]

WOW...what a hurting night that was...sheesh...really sorry to see this ammount of innocents die....its making it harder for us now...

Am gonna spend sometime and look over the thread again today, and adjust my list, and take it from there....

JL66 - for the time being i am willing to give you the benifit of the doubt and lean you more innocent for the moment...i think there are bigger mafia to fry after loosing 3 innocents...

 

[Reefscape]

andi swyd 407 dc 410

jl66 beth 469 niko 503

plant blue 482

blue jdge 492 wes 493 andi 499 plnt 573 mal 597

niko lady 577

beth jl66 570 brains2


No vote from jpap...

just pulled this post for reference purposes...

 

[Malbri]

This might hurt me to say because of the suspicion on beth, but im gonna say it anyway. She just doesnt look mafia to me. I read all of her posts, and nothing screamed "MAFIAMAFIA!!"

 

[bethkira2000]

not sure what to say,but that stings. I was wrong about Blueiz even though I didn't vote for her, I still thought she was mafia.
Andi- could either be mafia or innocent, has done things to make me wonder how innocent she is.
JL-had you pegged as mafia, not sure I'll wait
Plantling-nothing screams mafia, but with you nothin ever does, perhaps your good at hiding
Brains2-you have a nasty attitude, and your mean classic mafia style, but I'll peg you as innocent, I mean with the attitude it would be to obvious.
DC-perhaps you are mafia, I will investigate.
Niko-you are so good at this game you could be either.have to investigate you further
Malbri-you just seem innocent,so perhaps you are mafia
Wes-too quiet for my liking, perhaps you are mafia
Those are my thoughts, I will pay more attention today. Lets get mafia this time shall we.

 

[Swayde]

Checking in to let ya'll know I am still here, still playing, just not nearly as well as I'd like. I thought I would have more time to play, but RL has been very hectic and demanding lately. I am stunned to see us down 3 townies after last night and the mafia are only down 1 from night 1 = ( Hopefully our hit nails a mafia, as well as our lynch so we can even things up a bit, it's getting too close to the point where mafia will win if they out number us. And no more UDs!!!!

I have not had a chance to read all of the posts. I just woke up =( I am going to go back through and reread the posts so I can make an informed decision (but don't expect it until late tonight or early tomorrow because I am not even going to be home today). I did look to see if Andi had posted anything worthwhile to make me think she might be a townie, but at first glance, I didn't see it. I am going to put a vote on her just in case I can't log in again before nightfall, but it is subject to change once I get caught up.

I vote to lynch Andi.

 

[plantling]

They hit judgemax, because she was a known innocent. It would have been a risk to hit someone else. They could have hit one of the non-communitcating mafia.

I am not sure if I would have hit her, mostly because if she was not hit, there would have been lots of explaining to do on her part as why she was not hit.

My guess is that they thought about it and it was not worth the risk of hitting one of their own.

Besides the towns vote to lynch, the communicating innocents have a hit.

I am also concerned with plantlings assumption that brains2 is an innocent. We have no idea if they are or are not. It is 4 against 6 plus brains2, who could be either.

It sounds a bit like you are confessing to hitting JM, JL. And I assumed Brains was innocent last night because while I was posting, I saw that he made a list and it was very similar to mine. That's usually a tell to me that the person is on the same side as myself if they see things the way I do. JMO. However, I did think about it some more last night and Brains very well could be neutral, just like the warlock in game 13. Which means he's not aligned, he just needs to make it until the end to win. Just speculating, though.

Who looks scummy?

I fully agreed that I may look scummy now. I went over my posts w/Blue and I was harsh w/her at times because I really did believe her to be Mafia.

Whoever had this power should have protected judgemax!

There's a chance JP could have gotten this and never used it. And if JM or Blue got it they protected someone else. Are you fishing for this information for a reason?

:silly: erv: :silly:

Sorry Blue. Along w/my other reasons for voting you was that you seemed to just be targeting pple who I thought were innocent.

First off, Blue was not so on judgemax. She did not even vote for judgemax. She was just pointing out that we could not 100% trust judgemax being innocent just because of the dangerdoll lynch. Lady G had posted this before and anyone who has played before knows that this could have been an option and it was something good to talk about. From Blue's multiple posts on JM, I felt she was trying very hard to cast suspicion on JM. And as I've stated, the theory was plausible. It just wasn't likely as no other person had stepped forward to say they got an investigatin. Also I believed JM would not risk losing a team mate just so she could sail thru the game. To state it once or even twice that JM could still be Mafia is understandable, but I feel Blue did go on and on about it. I think JM didn't appreciate that she wasn't appreciated for risking her neck to come out and help the town. JMO.

Judgemax's vote on Blue was suspicous and I think she was a little maniplated by making the post. People were making a bigger deal out of her saying it than others.

I think the town needs to get 2 solid names to put up and go from there. The mafia can control the votes at this stage, so if we stop them from spreading everyone out then we have a better chance of seeing where they line up.

My top chioces are:

Beth
Niko
Andi
Plantling

I also think DC and Marbri are not to be trusted.

Now that I have made six new friends, I will change my vote again and call it a night. I hope the town can make this day a two person race.

I retract my vote to lynch andi and vote to lynch Plantling.

I would like to see other peoples lists and my vote is up for change. What would be good if everyone put up a list of four and then voted for their top, then we can adjust as needed.

Your vote is very telling. It will be very interesting to see who else jumps on.

 

[Malbri]

lol, I seem innocent so I might be mafia, thats logical

 

[plantling]

lol, I seem innocent so I might be mafia, thats logical

I voted for Beth last game for not being logical and she was an innocent. LOL, perhaps the logical thing to do is to vote for her again as she may be feigning to be illogical to trick us???

 

[brains2]

Well, I found the above post where LG was replying to JM about possible reasons why DD named LG. I'm stumped to find anything scummy in this post. I'm not adding LG to my list just yet but it's not a bad idea to watch her.

Actually I only have her leaning mafia and like I said its more because she was on Jmax's list and a feeling. I mean Jmax got hit for a reason and its got to be because of who she was spearheading the charge against or who was on her list. Now the thought has occurred to me that the mafia might have hit her to throw suspicion on those people.

lol, I seem innocent so I might be mafia, thats logical

Actually I have you leaning mafia as well..

John you asked for it so here is the list.. This list is alphabetical from my notes and the scale is 1 (known innocent) to 10 (known mafia) 5 being neutral at this point.

andi : 9 - with the lack of helping the town her last two votes have sparked a major interest in this person as being mafia.
beth : 9 - her vote on JL when she had others on her list then back pedaled and stated it wasn't an ordered list and told me to see how the votes fell so I posted my notes and she disappeared from the thread(see discussion for which she still hasn't answered the question to which she stated "what is your question, I'll answer your questions"
blue : 1 - Known Innocent
DD : 10 - Known Mafia
deputy : 7 - night 1 vote as well as overall absence from the thread. I know we all have RL issues so this might be part of his absense.. Then him being on Jmax's list (see above)
jl66 : 6 - I still have my questions but he has seemed to step up to the plate and pound the bushes.
jpap : 1 - Known Innocent
judge : 1 - Known Innocent
lady : 7 - see above
malbri : 7 - I don't see a concerted effort to help the town here and many claims of innocence.
niko : 6 - some questionable behavior, seems very defensive at times
plant : 7 - last nights vote pushed them up a bit on my list
swayde : 7 - again lack of prescence in the thread and concerted effort in helping the town
wesley : 7 - see above.. While a new player I'm not giving these new player breaks any more. Hit and run posting.