Mafia #23 Revenge

[Lady G]

I don't remember who said something about it...but a question was raised about how/when the mafia could when...I looked back in the rules and it says..

7) Either Mafia team can win, when they outnumber the Innocents, after night’s events.

Another question about if they chose each other what would happen....

The Mafia Teams - I will pick a leader among each group to PM me your hit. If the leader dies you will need to send in your own hits/investigations. Each Mafia group will get an investigation per night, if they investigate another Mafia, it will show as innocent.

It wasn't really answered in here....so I went to the sign up thread where it was asked RB said "Theoretically, it is possible"

Something I would like to mention...everyone keeps talking about when need to hit the "Don" in a regular Mafia game yep, that would be best...but look here, if the leader is hit really nothing changes for them, they still get the investigation and everything...so IMO, we need to stop trying to decide which is Don and which is "run of the mill" and just go for who we think Mafia. I know a few votes to Mal were "B/c they thought she was the Don" if those ppl wouldn't of been trying to look at it that way..they may of voted elsewhere.

 

[Lady G]

What Mal pulled if not mafia tatics was deff anti-town. I dont think it either proved Jmax's innocents or guilt. At this point im goin to hav to just read thru post cause i got nothing.

OK, I was just wondering what your thoughts were on that. Since you said if Mal was Jmax most likely was, I just wondered if Mals innocence changed your thoughts on Jmax.

Thank you for answering.

 

[Lady G]

Hmm, I wonder if Emo will grace us with one of his well informed posts...I notice he is posting in other parts of the forum atm.

 

[Grins]

You know yu quoted the wrong person to start with grins, why else would i have asked you what you meant? And FYI, even if my mod powers could pull that up, they are not used in the game..

Tell another one...

I know for a fact that she used them during the Grinch game and although I have no knowledge of her doing it in other games on a communicating team I'd be surprised if she hadn't.

And they barely needed me.

This didn't mean much to me when he said it, but when I take what Bob said last night into consideration "realizing they had to do little to make an Innocent disappear tonight, while their numbers grow." it stands out like a red thumb.

Which brings us to posts made since nightfall:

The Mafia, (old or new), are gleefully running around the square, realizing they had to do little to make an Innocent disappear tonight, while their numbers grow.

What makes the joy even better, they can not be stopped tonight because of a Doctor's Protection....

1. Bob, you love this don't you? And the way you offed Mal! Eeek!
2. I do think the first part of the quote is inferring that most of the 4 mafia members weren't even making noise about Mal last night. I also think LC's pre night post I gave prior is perhaps something BalaBob is playing off of?
3. When I saw the second half of the post I worried that Mal was the doctor and I'd not only had I helped lynch her but I had helped take out our own doctor.
4. JoAnder, we could have used you about now but I'm not going to beat you up over it.

The victim is quickly dispatched...the experience at the kill is well practiced over time.

The clove oil is laced with epsom salts, the mixture even made worse with water from a betta bowl.

ILB was just an Innocent....

Sure seems like he is saying that whomever took her out was a vet. I had mentioned to Z (?) late in the night I supsected her a bit because of the roleplaying talking about dark shadows and guns. Maybe the mafia had the some thoughts before or after I said it?

Now right out the gate you are trying to twist Rb's posts to clear yourself.

I'd like to clear myself yes and that was what my most recent post was about. However I have not twisted Bob's posts they are as exactly as he said them and I believe there are potentially clues there.

Makes me wonder if the Mafia ain't made up of inexperienced players. At least the team that got the hit.

Good point, it could mean that as well. It doesn't have to mean the team with the hit was experienced, but maybe they goofed and had an ill placed hit due to lack of experience.

Is he hinting to us that BlueIz might be part of that team? I mean yes she is normally a low poster, but she really has been more than absent from this game.. I mean she barely has 1% of the total post count..

Let me see if I'm following correctly. You think Bob might have been hinting that he sees blue by using colors and Blue obviously being the player he was referencing? Eh, maybe. Although I think Bob has left clues I'm not yet sold on this one.

Just to state something that is 100% truthful. I would NOT hit her (unless we were the last two standing). Thats the truth. Period.

Why Cory? To me it comes off as sounding as if you'd not hit her because you thought you could play her using your friendship as an advantage.

I know from being on a Mafia team with you in the past that you will go a bit too far to make a case, sometimes beyond what you can defend. I see you doing that right now.

I've seen it too frankly. Although I of course don't think he is doing it as a team player with me, I do agree with what you've seen before. He did the same thing with DD over her quoted email in the Santa game and I remember suggesting he not go so hard after her then. Perhaps I have given him too much slack in this game since he hasn't been jumping on trains started on me but I meant what I said in the previous post I made...I'm looking at everything with fresh eyes today.

how would either team know ILB was guaranteed innocent?..new mafia may have, bit how would old mafia know? hmm..this post doesn't sit right with me..

I don't understand how any mafia would have known before nightfall. Wouldn't the investigation and the hits both have been completed after all votes were in?

ILB seemed like a "safe hit", or someone tht wouldnt get picked on a mafia team and she was be to loud to be the DON.

I don't know about that, although we of course know now she was innocent, I have been loud as the governor. I'm not convinced a vocal player is a don but just want to point out a time where a key role was held by a vocal person.

Grins I'm going to be watching you close.. I did get the meaning of your post but don't think that I'm letting you off the hook that easily either.. Your still a suspect..

I have no issue with you or anyone else watching me closely. In my opinion everyone should be watched closely.

i would really like to know where emo has been..he has 2 posts..one irrelevant..one to save himself from a UD..could he be the new mafia's don?..laying low..staying out of the way?

I'd like to know that too.

Emo is my second choice.. But in your experience has RB ever made a newbie a DON? That is why I put my vote on LC..

Yes he has. He made me the Grinch when JM had to bow out.

isn't it random? the roles?

Bob has admitted freely that he'd tweak roles to make a game better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfTheDeep
...does this mean we are wrong on who we are suspecting...i hate you bob. :angryfire:

ty.

Bala sees the Day One come to an end...

And the start of the Day Two...

Who can forsee the Trend..

Be four we reach the End...


g'nite, folks!

Bob, grrrr. Your rules do not state that we can't lynch you. :silly:

Well after the last couple of days and all of the drama that has happened I am wondering if the mafia has just been sitting there watching us pull ourselves apart. I proved it in one game that 75% of the mafia were in the bottom third of the posting crowd. I don't know if that statistic has any bearing on this game but there are several truths out there..

1) we didn't hit a mafia last night
2) they converted 2 more players so we really lost 5 people
3) Bob likes to screw with the players heads.

which makes me question question question much of what I have been thinking up to this point and I am attempting to re-evaluate right now.

You're not the only one. I am not planning on a vote for anyone soon. I certainly won't pull an Emo or LC and vote at the last second but I'm going to try to keep a clear head today.

Goin with the clue of it being 50/50 it could mean there are more mafia then we thought, but i think he is jerking us around. There are some capitalized letters in the message so far puttin together i havent come up with anything......i think he's jerkin us:headshake2:

I've looked at the letters and went so far as to separate the vowels and consonents to try and decode it, but he is probably laughing at me doing that because I see nada there.

bdtwtb
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OK My first move will be to analize ILB and see who might have felt safe hitting her....

LC, good to see you finally playing the game. I'd like to know what has brought on the shift now. It isn't as if we weren't all begging or even threatening you if you didn't yesterday and yet you stayed firm with the bizarre new style you were trying out.

And if RB decided to make the two additions a THIRD Mafia team, we'd be at 8/16....his 50/50 comment seems to hold a lot of weight.

I'm going to need more than antibiotics if Bob did that!

well are you sure she wasn't "hinting" to you b/c she thinks you are mafia, and she wants you to realize you are on the same side.

Huh? LG the 2 mafia teams aren't on the same side unless I've missed something so I'm not following your reasoning here.

I haven't forgotten this post. Three hours been enough time to catch up Grins? You posted like a fiend on day 1, perhaps you are following the out of sight, out of mind philosophy to make your name drop off the radar.

When I'm sick, and I'm trying to collect all my thoughts into single posts for hopefully easier reading..yeah it takes a bit.

Now, at the time there's almost no chance that King could have been mafia... I say ALMOST because who the heck knows what's going on here.

As much as Bob loves to screw with us I don't think he would have out and out lied and made either King or Z mafia the first day. Mafia could have made the mafia last night though.

Ok, so you DID communicate through email to Ice when evil...

I did NOT. He may have offered it but I have never EVER communicated with any mafia player about the game via email except in the case where I would email the game mod because I only had their email address such as Bob when I was the grinch. And shoot in that game my team wasn't even kind enough to tell me to not PM him and I foolishly used the AC PM system.

If Ice offered it, it has no relevance on whether I did it.

Ok, yep you did communicate with email....the question wasn't if they coached you though, it was the fact you said email instead of post...which could of been JUST a typo...but it could of been a typo you were thinking about emailing a communicating person while posting...I still believe you slipped not typoed.
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Again LadyG, I did NOT. Saying that Ice offered is not the same thing as saying that I did it then.

This was Hn's answer to the question...looks to me when communicating you say quite a bit to them. What he said "true, but you did do that...is from my post and he highlighted the part I am going to in the post below...
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Yes, I and have admitted I shared information with communicating team members including a few key points I thought we should address. But I have never EVER burdoned a teammate with my long drawn out quoted posts and if you wish to ask HN again if I sent him one of my long quoted analysis posts of all members in email, PM, or IM I encourage you to do so. If he answers honestly he'll say that while I did share a few typed thoughts including brief paragraphs when the mafia was on us I never once went to him to review essays.

I'm not quite clear on this...if you were mafia you would slap you too, but because you have a habit of running your mouth when innocent???

I'd slap me for the same reason I'd slap you...neither of us are afraid to talk and are not the type to hide.

So, was that "hint" for Clown Grins??? I haven't seen you say anything about this.

Yes it was although I wish he had not made it so obvious for all to see.

Again someone else (who btw, you mentioned) has also agreed to the whole email thing...see, it looks to me more like that was a "slip" not a typo.

No she is NOT talking about the game when she was on a team with me. She is talking about the 50/50 game where I said I had Ice's Yahoo IM name. I had asked him if I could use it in the sign up for that game and it was talked about once or twice during the game when others that didn't have it would ask me for it and I didn't want to share it in case they were mafia. I'll be glad to look that up for you if Blue insists that her statement was related to the single case where she was on a team with me in the Grinch game.

Frankly I believe I have answered the email typo more thoroughly than anyone should have to at this point. If you or anyone else has a new question on it I'll be glad to answer it but I am not going to allow anyone to lead me down a path in order to remove my focus.

I know a few votes to Mal were "B/c they thought she was the Don" if those ppl wouldn't of been trying to look at it that way..they may of voted elsewhere.

As someone that voted that way I want you to know I do agree with you on
this.

//gameoff// I'll be back guys but after sitting here for so long answering these I need to go rest for a bit. HN, I hope things are better for you today, LadyG that call of yours was freaky, and Clown hope your head is better//game on//

 

[IceH2O]

This might take some time.I will start with RBs clues.

Bala sees a 50/50 Game Day 2 Nightfall...maybe....


:lipssealedsmilie:

I think either RB was saying that since most of us had 3 players we thought were mafia and one turned out not to be that the next night fall would be a vote race between JM and Grins.

Bala sees the Day One come to an end...

And the start of the Day Two...

Who can forsee the Trend..

Be four we reach the End...


g'nite, folks!

I've seen many different thoughts on this and all of them are possible. Anyone notice though that the font is orange? Doesn't LGs sig say if she was any color she'd be orange? I know in one of the games he used Green and I attached it to Plantling and was right even though I ended up dismissing the idea.

I have no idea how this says anything about her either way but I just wanted to point it out as it might help us later in the game.

Here she defends a jibe from Mal towards Ice.



Official vote tally. Also to note: Mal and KOTD voted for ILB, then switched their votes.

So, the players she didn't go after at all: LG, Blue, DD, Emo, Bkw, Joan, Cool(wtf is this, it's on her list), Mad, KOTD. Joan is gone due to a UD. These are going to be my initial suspects. I'm going to add JM in there just cause she may have had ILB hit just so she could claim she'd never do something so stupid, ILB was obviously after JM the whole time, while looking at other people.

I think we can remove Bkw and KOTD off that list, at least for the Mafia team that hit ILB...though KOTD might have done it...obviously some none-gameplay related "connecting" going on with little comments to many of ILB's posts.

Origionally I was gonna make this the longest Mafia post ever, quoting almost everything from my suspects and analizing it...but I started this cause I couldn't sleep and I'm going to try again. Once again, my suspects to watch are: LG, Blue, DD, Emo, Bkw, Mad, KOTD, Cool (whoever this is) and JM.

My initial thoughts without going back:
Blue and Emo I haven't seen nearly as much of as I'd expect.
Bkw is quiet as usual.
Don't remember anything from Mad's posts. LG and DD pretty much the same.
KOTD seemed to attach himself to ILB a lot after he retracted his vote. Only reason he's still on my list, as he seems pretty helpful.
JM's seemed rather defensive most her posts, especially the ones targeted at her.

Nothing much to say here except her defense of a jibe was from Mal not me.

I know you are a good player and I should take some of your analysis to heart but the bolded line above,not the suspects, and the way you've played this game so far tells me this is all a big joke to you. You have admitted to wanting to mess with our minds and this leads me to think you are mafia and named players on your team in your list.Point out the obvious so its not so obvious.

Wow, what a bad night, not only a innocent but our DR too.

Now for a couple thoughts about Bobs "clues",

1.Ok, so IMO he is saying that the mafia didn't have to do much...b/c the innocent pretty much hung themselves. Now do I think we were wrong about all three ppl we had in the top votes.....no, I sure do not. What I do wonder about is JM and Grins...JM pretty much brought the votes on herself, is he talking about her too, that is possible but I tend to believe he makes each post to the person lynched. Grins..well, really she didn't bring it to herself is he talking about her...I don't think so.



2.What do I get from this post...well, I believe the hit on ILB was from an experienced player, that is what I get from this.

3My final thoughts right now...JM old school and part of the hit on ILB...Grins new school. I think we just lynched the wrong one tonight (obviously), but until more evidence...I still believe Grins and Jmax to be mafia.

I have to get to bed now and will post more tomorrow, there is much to be discussed.

Since I hate inside quote answering I again numbered the statement and will correspond with my responses.

1.I think RBs trying to tell us that the mafia just sat back and let us lynch an innocent. With their numbers so low and so many innocents willing to jump on every little thing why should the mafia take charge of anything? Why post or even hint that they think Mal looked mafia. Why bother even voting for Mal.

Cool and Cory both had votes on players that were the only votes on that player. Cool has been very quiet while Cory has posted a few thoughts. LC sat on himself until it was time to make sure Mal would have vote numbers.His vote pretty much made the deficit untieable at the time. If he stayed and 1 person flipped from Mal to Grins or Jo came in and voted Grins then Mal might have survived. Emo is another low poster that deserves looked for nothing more than a vote.

2.I believe so also LG.But what determines the level of experience? 3 games? 5 games? 10 games? We all pretty much fit into that theory.

Or its just that the mafia has killed so many because of so many games that its second nature.

Or RB means a player that has been mafia more times than not.

3.I'm starting to wonder the same thing. I'm almost positive JM is and plan on voting her again unless something changes my mind or someone else stands out more. Grins I can start to see some of what everyone is saying but at the same time I think its pretty trivial stuff. I realize if I'm wrong I'm dead but that just means I got played and I won't let it happen again.

Yes Cl, My vote is staying on Grins. It was put there becuase of her lying about editing her post, I dont care if you or anyone else believes me concerning that as I have already posted. My vote is staying on her now because I fully believe that she is mafia.

Go back and read how her tone changed when the votes were stacking up on her. For those defending grins at this point, you are looking really suspicious to me.

JM was almost lynched last night, I believe that JM is innocent and just having fun this go around and letting her blonde roots show.

No, I didnt make the original for the rest to see it, unfortuanatly quotes in quotes do not carry over, and my phsychic abilities were taking a break I suppose when they didnt tell me that she was going to edit her post.

Im not harping on anything. I stated my reason why I voted for grins, when grins questioned me, or referenced that I was confused, I responded to that. Shes the one that brought it up, not me.

Your post above calling me a liar concerning it puts you just a notch below Grins on my mafia radar. Why are YOU bringing it up again? I have expalined all you have asked already in my previous posts.

Just becuase I didnt jump on a train and vote to lynch an innocent last night, or help the train out by posting stuff that was laughable concerning mal, that makes me look guilty?

Take it or leave it, its your choice.

Blue you haven't posted thats the point. Grins is your only suspect out of 1000 posts. Others are being called out for not kicking in doors or posting and you're doing neither. Only thing I see is you getting defensive when you see your name.

And if RB decided to make the two additions a THIRD Mafia team, we'd be at 8/16....his 50/50 comment seems to hold a lot of weight.

With the addition of 3 players after the thread was closed I could actually see that happening. We know Mal wasn't but what if RB hooked Z and KOTD up as the 3rd team and they got to choose a player last night? We just assumed innocent, doesn't mean they are. No one should assume they are,not with RB as the Mod lol.

Ok, I went back through day 1, to see if I could see anything about anyone on Mal, I was looking to see who was the first to start with her and the first to vote her. Mal, I have to admit myself made herself look bad with her non stop posting about RBs plot....but anyway here is what I found and then a run down of how votes went....




Here is Ice's response who immediately lets her know how she is moving up his list and he may vote her today for saying this. Now, IMO...she just didn't get how we could see him as innocent, I think she just really didn't understand at that point, and I wonder why this ONE post made Ice say this to her. I really didn't see any other before this from Ice questioning Mal.


Then Ice adds his list with her on it, stating the vote on ILB was serious, I did look back again after reading this and she did vote ILB b/c of that...but then in another post after that she added, it may change and she wanted a vote in "just in case" something happened, so I don't think it was as serious as he was stating.

Then he does follow through with the vote on Mal.

KOTD was the second to vote her.

Beth was the third.

Then Beth retracts later.

Now, Z came in with the vote count, and his vote to Grins. I will be using Z's vote counts throughout this post. Here we have Grins and Jmax tied in votes Mals only votes at the time were Ice and KOTD.


Beth re-votes Mal...

Then I vote Grins.

Jmax added her vote for Grins

With the last few votes we now have Grins in the lead 7-4 with Jmax. This vote count was at 4:42 a little over a hour to go for night fall.


Ice comes in and retracts his Mal vote and switches to JMax.

Bkw, comes in and votes Mal...adding he thinks if Mal is so is Jmax...so Bkw do you now think Jmax is innocent since Mal was?? Not insinuating anything here, this is just a honest question.

Emo, comes on and votes Mal.

Now, Ice comes in and re-votes Mal.

Clown retracts off Grins and votes Judge

Grins retracts her Jmax vote and votes Mal...


Now we have, Grins at 7-6 Mal and it is 5:32 (Grins vote is actually on Mal at this point).

Clown comes in and retracts from JM to Mal

And at 5:44 we have after Clowns switch Mal in the lead 7-6 Grins.

HN, comes in and ties it back with a switch to Grins.


Z comes in and retracts from Grins to Lchap (Lchap had switched to Z).

DD, votes Mal



Z comes back in and retracts placing his vote on Grins.


His last vote tally and we have with all the switching at the end...Mal up to 9-Grins 7. This was at 6:44



And RBs Nightfall vote count.

I know this is long...but I was hoping it would help in seeing who switched and when.

LG you need to go back and look again. I voted in post 424 and I had been mentioning Mal numerous times. Post 130 Post 142 post 359 post 386 Post 406 then voted her in 424. She had already gone overboard at the time of my vote.

After all that and looking at everything again....I have to say my top suspects would have to be...

Ice-For immediately going to Mal for her questioning the reason we all felt KOTD was innocent. I do believe she just did not get it, yes, Mal continued it and adding her RB stuff really made herself in the end look mafia. At that point though that was really the only thing she said, she hadn't gone on about it at THAT point, where he let her know she was now raising on his list and his vote may go her way. His seemingly "defending" of Grins. A side note to that, maybe he does see he as innocent, IF he is mafia and IF he does...in the end if she was lynched he would be able to go back and say, see I thought she was innocent and the ones that were on her look more mafia to me.

Grins-Same reasons as yesterday, then Clown pointing out her "hint" to him...I could easily see it as a mafia "hint" also.

Clown-Well dear, you have managed to make me wonder about you again. I think you could be mafia and were trying to make Grins look innocent with the whole "hint" thing. Your late switch putting Mal in the lead really does not look well to me.

Jmax-I still see as possible Mafia also, still same reasons as yesterday.

Blue-I am beginning to wonder about her. Yes, I believe her with the edit thing, still do not think she would make it up...ppl say lots of things to make others look evil in this game, but usually they do not flat out lie about something like that. Although she is sticking to the ONE thing and that does IMO look scummy. She is just a thought at that moment just leaning and my feelings are much more strong toward the others at this time.

Well I agree with at least 2 of your suspects.

A couple of interesting posts regarding Ice....

Later in the Day, Judge moves her vote off of HN onto Grins in a move to save herself. Ice calls her move mafia. Did anyone notice that Grins did the same thing (moved her vote to save herself)? She had a vote parked on LChap, but moved it to JMax when it looked like she and Judge would be the main candidates of the evening. Once steam got going on Mal, Grins jumped over to Mal to save herself... Not necessarily an unusual move for Grins, but I didn't see Ice call her out on it.


Here Ice pulls off of Mal then onto JMax....


Soon afterward, steam is building on Mal and he hops off of Judge back onto Mal, as others think she is the better vote. Why does Ice think those he is now following onto Mal can even be trusted on Day 1? Wasn't Emo one of those diving onto Malbri?


Ice accused others of trying to link him to Grins, but he's really done it all by himself, and quite strongly. The thing is though, if Grins is his teammate, it seems illogical that he'd be jumping so strongly to save her. But Ice has played strong, out-front mafia before (remember the Santa game), in which he did things that you generally wouldn't expect scum to do...

I'd really like to hear from Ice on the subject. The link between he and Grins is undeniable.

I said it about Jmax because she was on HN with no real reason. If she thought Grins was such a target the entire game why wasn't her vote on her? What I called being a mafia move wasn't her moving it but her sitting someplace that wasn't going to go anyplace and saving it to save herself.

As for Grins doing the same I did miss it but she didn't broadcast it for all to see either. JM admitted that she was going to do it.So many votes were being moved around I actually quit keeping score once I had my vote on Mal, who I thought was the Don.

OK, well, it was tied early on, ..but I had not moved my vote at that point, and when it was getting closer to night , she had 7 i had 4, ..thats a huge difference in my opinion, maybe i am looking at it different, but to say, i am lying, ..is A little harsh,. IMHO, 3 votes, is not that close in this game, ..If they were gonna put forth that large of an effort to save me, ..they really could have just piled on grins, ..Instead of mal?..

see my point?..

See you're being defensive, thats all I see. 3 votes is very close when there were still 10 votes out there that could be placed on either one of you. As for why pile on Mal, the most it could be would be 4 players since there were only 2 teams of 2. Looking at certain players, Cory and Cool, weren't around and Emo his second post and disappear maybe they weren't here for you to tell to switch to Grins.

Hmm, I didn't even notice..think about that, Ice calling Jmax out for changing her vote, but not saying anything to Grins about it.

To Ice being connected to Grins, yes...he does seem to be. Yes, he put himself there with his extreme efforts to say how he thinks her innocent. For a while, I was thinking possible Dr/Detective..but we now know that Jo was the DR. so that can't be what the connection would be.

His vote switching is quite curious I know he kept saying how he thought them to be team mates, obviously they weren't...but it was very convenient how his vote went whichever way would protect Grins the most.

My vote didn't go to protect anyone. My vote was for Mal because I thought she was the Don and it was more important to me to get her. Once I saw that no one was voting for Mal I switched to the lesser mafia. Then when people started voting Mal I figured we could again get the Don.

 

[Grins]

JM, I almost forgot and I don't wish to point out the message at this time but did you leave us a hint in one of your posts?

 

[IceH2O]

I don't remember who said something about it...but a question was raised about how/when the mafia could when...I looked back in the rules and it says..

7) Either Mafia team can win, when they outnumber the Innocents, after night’s events.

Another question about if they chose each other what would happen....

The Mafia Teams - I will pick a leader among each group to PM me your hit. If the leader dies you will need to send in your own hits/investigations. Each Mafia group will get an investigation per night, if they investigate another Mafia, it will show as innocent.

It wasn't really answered in here....so I went to the sign up thread where it was asked RB said "Theoretically, it is possible"

Something I would like to mention...everyone keeps talking about when need to hit the "Don" in a regular Mafia game yep, that would be best...but look here, if the leader is hit really nothing changes for them, they still get the investigation and everything...so IMO, we need to stop trying to decide which is Don and which is "run of the mill" and just go for who we think Mafia. I know a few votes to Mal were "B/c they thought she was the Don" if those ppl wouldn't of been trying to look at it that way..they may of voted elsewhere.

You guys are posting to much I can't keep up lol

Yes LG now thats a moot point but if we could have hit the Don last night that team couldn't have pulled a new player in, only the Don could add the player.

 

[IceH2O]

Hopefully this clears up the email issue.

I have a Blackberry, when I get messages from the messenger service it comes in email form until I click on it. Since I have to go to my email inbox to get to them I considered them emails.


If you guys give me a minute I'll throw out a suspect list.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Ok, I have a little more time to put the game at the forefront of my mind tonight and there seems to be some good info brought out today. Here are my thoughts on those I find most interesting right now.

Grins: She looked guilty before the vote shifting last night. Now she looks even more so to me. She put together a great post, but unfortunately it looks like all of her time was spent trying to defend herself instead of looking at anyone else.

Ice: Mad, Z, & LG summarized this very well. He looks even more connected (and prtective) of Grins now that his posts and vote changes are put into a relative timeline. When it was apparent that my vote wasn't going to matter on JM and I switched to Grins, he was a big reason I didn't go to Mal (I admit, she kinda asked for votes, but Grins looked more mafia to me). I'm looking forward to seeing his responses.

Jmax: Is actually looking a bit less guilty now that I'm looking more at Ice. It's possible that they had two people to choose between to try to save Grins.

LC: Glad to see him posting more, but worth a close eye to me. I think he'd be more interested and engaged in the game as a mafia than a "plain ole" innocent. He's had roles 2 of 3 games I think.

Clown: The apparent protection of Grins based on the "clue" concerns me. Especially because she never mentioned it or responded to it.

Ogre: I have been pretty "quiet" this game. I truthfully have alot going on, but I do find it very weird that you would point it out considering you have less than 1/2 the number of posts that I do.

bkw: Nothing of major concern yet, but low posts (and it drives me nuts when the names of who you are quoting are cut out).

Emo: What?! Two posts?

DD: Nothing of major concern yet, but low posts.

KOTD & Z: I'm looking for changes in their style. They'd be a pretty obvious choice for the mafia since they were "known innocents".

 

[LesbianChap]

Nothing much to say here except her defense of a jibe was from Mal not me.

Maybe the way I worded it was poor, but that's what I said, isn't it? Mal jibed you, and then ILB defended you...right? "She (ILB) defended a jibe from Mal toward Ice" She defended a jibe toward Ice, coming from Mal...

pfft, syntax nazis.