Mafia 40 "Life behind bars" The Play

[IceH2O]

Ok. We wont say who is innocent, only if we found a snitch. That way we dont have to worry bout anyone claiming someone is innocent.

how bout this...

1. the spy gets an investigation. So the spy investigates the person above the medic, this protects the medic.

2. The medic protects the spy, so the beat down wont happen.

3. then the plan goes forth with ppl investigating everyone above them.

4. if, and only if, a spy is found then that person will speak up.....will not say so and so is innocent.

This should make everyone happy. No PRs will be harmed, no false innocents will be claimed, and maybe a snitch will get shanked.....that ok?

Meant to also bold this line. Typo or slip Bkw?

 

[IceH2O]

I was thinking about this whole "disclose who you are invest." subject and if we post who we are investigating it will be obvious who the snitches vs. innocents are based on the number of investigations they use.....This may have been pointed out already so sorry if I repeat. The huge convo on this subject has me baffled!

Explain to me how you came to this?

 

[ZSandmann]

Ice I agree we can't say who we are going to invest and therefore can't rule out double ups but I see BKW as trying to bring us together. I think we all need to agree when we will use our invests but give no tell of who we will use it on. In fact it would be best if we all choose at random who we invest, negating our own inclinations of who we think are snitches. Randomness is certain to get a good coverage and as I said double ups will only help solidify our claims. The second condition is that if you don't get a snitch you say nothing of the results of your invest.

 

[IceH2O]

As for who I am investing I won't say yet but you can be assured it will be someone with a low quality of posting. Higher and mid posters give away info with posts. I want to find the one trying to hide among us.

 

[[AC] Tree_Hugger]

No no read again sir. I said it's SO scummy, that it couldn't BE scummy, more likely to be an honest innocent's mistake - I have a hard time believing an actual Scum would make such an error to look overly bullyish/aggressi- you know what, why am I repeating myself? I just summed it up again for Lady G, so can use your own eyes.

I think people will see that you're deliberately, repeatedly,ignoring my explanation, and each time you rephrase it, you miss half of it (according to my interpretation.)

I just hope a few people investigate me tomorrow I really do. It would better if they did, because if nightfalls and what you think you want to take place, will take place, you'll have all kinds of attention all over you both.

To point out someone's behavior that you deem to be scummy but say that it's TOO scummy to actually be scummy is crazy. No such thing in this game as too scummy to actually be scummy.

 

[noodles62]

Explain to me how you came to this?

I was just thinkin on my drive home, trying to figure it all out - the rules state that the innocents get one investigation only; the snitches can have one each nite. If we post who we are gonna invest. then it will be obvious how many invests people have, thus who is innocent and who is not. Not logical........easy way for the snitches to snuff out all the innocents....

 

[IceH2O]

Ice I agree we can't say who we are going to invest and therefore can't rule out double ups but I see BKW as trying to bring us together. I think we all need to agree when we will use our invests but give no tell of who we will use it on. In fact it would be best if we all choose at random who we invest, negating our own inclinations of who we think are snitches. Randomness is certain to get a good coverage and as I said double ups will only help solidify our claims. The second condition is that if you don't get a snitch you say nothing of the results of your invest.

Trying to bring us together after it was already discussed that it won't work.

The snitches aren't going to come out and say I investigated such and such and they are snitches for the reasons already stated, they would be shanked. His plan that he is pushing just won't work and endangers the PRs.

Obviously choosing at random is the only way to do it but thats not what Bkw is pushing for.

Choosing at random is what we'd have done anyway.

 

[IceH2O]

I was just thinkin on my drive home, trying to figure it all out - the rules state that the innocents get one investigation only; the snitches can have one each nite. If we post who we are gonna invest. then it will be obvious how many invests people have, thus who is innocent and who is not. Not logical........easy way for the snitches to snuff out all the innocents....

But the snitches know who is innocent and would just post such and such is innocent. Then you'd have to figure out who is lying.

 

[bkw1982]

:shakehead:

Still a problem with this. Snitches can find the PRs if the PR is above them. Only they would know giving them the chance to beat down the medic then spy.

What if by chance all the snitches are lined up in the list. Then only 1 will be found and the others are safe.



I totally agree with LG on this and was the same conclusion I came too. I think it helps the snitches more then it would the innocents and puts our PRs at risk.




Judging by the ones pushing the hardest for Bkws plan, you Dawg and Bkw, I see this as you trying to distance from Dawg.Not saying all 3 are definitely bad guys, seems to obvious. But I'm betting 2 of the 3 are. I'd put them in order of Bkw,Dawg then NJ. I don't like NJs quick vote because as LG has said its usually pretty hard to get NJ to vote on Day 1 and she was very early compared to usual.But guys look at the list then look at who is investigating who.

Heres the top 4

Chill
Bkw1982
Dirtydawg10
Zsand

So Dawg invests Bkw if it was inverted Bkw invests Dawg.If Chill and Z are also snitches 2 of them are protected off the bat. I know its most likely not that way but 2 of my concerns are able to invest one another under this plan.


I think its obvious why they are pushing this so hard. It helps them find the PRs and offers protection among themselves. Without the medic and spy we are basically sitting ducks. Dawg has really been pulling at the vibe strings the past 2 days. I like the good cop bad cop you and Bkw pulled this morning.
Chills answers to the invest discussion helped move him back down (still suspect though) and he is replaced by Bkw who has more posts today then in any game ever. Must really be important to him to find the PRs.

I vote to shank Bkw

Only innocents get investigations, so we dont have to worry bout that

Im tryin to figure out how you and LG see me pushing. I mentioned it and laid it out, people asked questioned and i answered. I never said everyone had to do it. The only reason it stayed around so long was cause ppl kept bringing it back up.

Really......how would they be safe? the idea was to get the most from the investigations. If the snitches were lined up then it would mean we might find 1......why is that bad?

Meant to also bold this line. Typo or slip Bkw?

It's a typo....

This is why i dont post ideas, having a plan is viewed as being guilty.

 

[NeonJulie]

To point out someone's behavior that you deem to be scummy but say that it's TOO scummy to actually be scummy is crazy. No such thing in this game as too scummy to actually be scummy.

Well that's true, (if you're using words so literally you miss the whole idea behind what I was trying to say). But it could be SO scummy that actual scum would have to be suicidal to ACTUALLY employ that, and I give him enough credit that he'd be smarter than that.

This isn't a distancing move - I'm not teamed up with him, or JM, or anyone - but I see a method behind her motive, and that's why I key on it. Investigate me and prove it to yourselves.