Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play

[ZSandmann]

By the way Mostly, if I am now a suspect, why did you just move to vote with me? I'm the first vote on Red so for better or for worse if he's lynched I'm responsible. You were second on him after me, then moved over to Plant, now you shift back as it looks like Red will be lynched instead of Kash.

 

[mostlycichlids]

If you saw I said I copied the list (from JL page one list) then you should of seen that that is why I forgot you. Rb I had a 4 (that's barely scummy) and as flaky as he was acting I suspect most of us had him that way. No, quiet does not always mean scum, I always think that and that's why I go after quiet players so much, but it doesn't pan out that way. I already explained pappy and most else what you ask here in previous posts. I'm glad to see actually posting a list makes me a suspect, I posted this and asked others to do the same yet no one has...

I hate posting lists because people pick them apart and point fingers, like I did to you. You are right quiet does not always mean scum but a lot of times it does....I do see you have RB foruth but I was unsure if it was in any order.

By the way Mostly, if I am now a suspect, why did you just move to vote with me? I'm the first vote on Red so for better or for worse if he's lynched I'm responsible. You were second on him after me, then moved over to Plant, now you shift back as it looks like Red will be lynched instead of Kash.

Wow you are right, I totally spaced that out. It is no excuse but I work nights and just woke up about and hour or so a go. TRS and plant have been main suspects for me, a lot of others have good reasoning for voting kash but me coming into the game late I had 20 some pages to catch up there for I skimmed most of it and started out day two. After last nights posts from TRS he became more suspect...If I would of woke up at eight this morning I would of changed my vote to him before anyone today placed their vote but getting off work at six this morning that was impossible. My change has all to do with last nights comments from TRS.

 

[dirtydawg10]

So why the vote change now? You retracted your vote on her after you have been so set on her for two days now, just curious...I feel you have been dead set on that vote and now you are changing out of no where....the move seems a bit off the wall.

Uhhh...I didn't make a vote change...yet. I simply retracted my vote because of RB quitting. The other times RB has quit a game is usually because he is pissed off at something the Mod has done.

Unless I'm reading the rules wrong here's what I see. If RB was a wg he would only know who the Don was (possibly Kash). If RB was a wg I think JL would have revealed that. If RB was the Don he would have known Kash was a wg. Since he quit and died would JL reveal if he was the Don? I don't think so because the Don role would get transferred to a wg. If RB was a vanilla citizen I'm not so sure what he would have to be pissed at JL about because he would have been as clueless as I am (well maybe not AS clueless as me ). This leads me to believe that RB may have been the Don. Although I'm still wondering if RB would get pissed enough to quit when having the Don role. Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but I'm still thinking who my vote will be for. :22_yikes:

 

[ZSandmann]

All the 4's, 5's etc are equally ranked, its been so long I forgot people may not know how I do my list. When my next one comes out sometime tomorrow (fates willing) I'll explain it a bit more.

 

[ZSandmann]

Uhhh...I didn't make a vote change...yet. I simply retracted my vote because of RB quitting. The other times RB has quit a game is usually because he is pissed off at something the Mod has done.

Unless I'm reading the rules wrong here's what I see. If RB was a wg he would only know who the Don was (possibly Kash). If RB was a wg I think JL would have revealed that. If RB was the Don he would have known Kash was a wg. Since he quit and died would JL reveal if he was the Don? I don't think so because the Don role would get transferred to a wg. If RB was a vanilla citizen I'm not so sure what he would have to be pissed at JL about because he would have been as clueless as I am (well maybe not AS clueless as me ). This leads me to believe that RB may have been the Don. Although I'm still wondering if RB would get pissed enough to quit when having the Don role. Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but I'm still thinking who my vote will be for. :22_yikes:

JL said he was a citizen so I am going to believe he was a citizen. Yes, Rb has quit in protest before but there was no crazy blow-up like in the past, I think he was too busy or unwilling to keep up with a game that is actually half-active. When was the last time he played before this one?

 

[mostlycichlids]

Uhhh...I didn't make a vote change...yet. I simply retracted my vote because of RB quitting. The other times RB has quit a game is usually because he is pissed off at something the Mod has done.

Unless I'm reading the rules wrong here's what I see. If RB was a wg he would only know who the Don was (possibly Kash). If RB was a wg I think JL would have revealed that. If RB was the Don he would have known Kash was a wg. Since he quit and died would JL reveal if he was the Don? I don't think so because the Don role would get transferred to a wg. If RB was a vanilla citizen I'm not so sure what he would have to be pissed at JL about because he would have been as clueless as I am (well maybe not AS clueless as me ). This leads me to believe that RB may have been the Don. Although I'm still wondering if RB would get pissed enough to quit when having the Don role. Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but I'm still thinking who my vote will be for. :22_yikes:

How do you have all this info, or is it just your thoughts...Hmmm. maybe you missed it but his role was uncovered, he was a citizen, not likely to be the DON?

All the 4's, 5's etc are equally ranked, its been so long I forgot people may not know how I do my list. When my next one comes out sometime tomorrow (fates willing) I'll explain it a bit more.

Yep gotcha ya now.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Mad, it's not that obscure. I hadn't "started playing without knowing" my role because I hadn't started playing. It was a meaningless post. Granted, you may not see it that way now or maybe you just don't want to. But to me at the time I posted... that's all it was.

It wasn't necessarily a meaningless post.... you said, 'game on'. 'Game on' typically means, 'here and ready to go'. But you weren't ready....according to you, you didn't know your role. Huh? Kind of a strange thing to post then...

 

[Madcrawdad]

Uhhh...I didn't make a vote change...yet. I simply retracted my vote because of RB quitting. The other times RB has quit a game is usually because he is pissed off at something the Mod has done.

Unless I'm reading the rules wrong here's what I see. If RB was a wg he would only know who the Don was (possibly Kash). If RB was a wg I think JL would have revealed that. If RB was the Don he would have known Kash was a wg. Since he quit and died would JL reveal if he was the Don? I don't think so because the Don role would get transferred to a wg. If RB was a vanilla citizen I'm not so sure what he would have to be pissed at JL about because he would have been as clueless as I am (well maybe not AS clueless as me ). This leads me to believe that RB may have been the Don. Although I'm still wondering if RB would get pissed enough to quit when having the Don role. Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but I'm still thinking who my vote will be for. :22_yikes:

RB is not the Don...he was a citizen. As far as why he quit, who knows...but his posting on AC looks to have been very limited over the past couple of days. So, if I had to fathom a guess I'd say it was a time constraint issue.

Now that the mist has cleared, the town wonders what has happened?

Rbishop is no longer with us. He was a citizen.

 

[dirtydawg10]

JL said he was a citizen so I am going to believe he was a citizen. Yes, Rb has quit in protest before but there was no crazy blow-up like in the past, I think he was too busy or unwilling to keep up with a game that is actually half-active. When was the last time he played before this one?

True...there was no blow-up unless it was behind the scenes. I guess I may be reading into this a bit too much.

How do you have all this info, or is it just your thoughts...Hmmm. maybe you missed it but his role was uncovered, he was a citizen, not likely to be the DON?

I have all this info because I have been reading and playing the game. I didn't say anything I stated was inside information or absolute fact. I actually said "This leads me to believe".

 

[bkw1982]

So far this is what i got as a list

Possible rebel scum
Kash-Being she wasn't hit makes her possible rebel scum (also possible she is tool to be used by the rebel scum, but im leaning scum)

TRS-supposed joke vote for kash, then makes a statement about her playing differently, although the game just started. screws up a vote for coler, then finally leaves a vote on kash. I think he blew a joke between him and his rebel scum friend kash.

Sideline
Plantling- tried to jump to kash to have her lynched. could be good thing or bad bad thing, depends on kash.

I'm fine with a vote on either Kash or TRS

You obviously didn't read my post. I voted for TRS because he suddenly "forgot" the whole PM conversation, even though he was practically in the middle of it. He also "dared" the mods to clear his name even though he insinuated that Rb and Coler were cheating, which has almost solidified my vote.

And now you vote for TRS even though you said we would learn info on 7 (now 6) players by getting rid of Kashta? Why would you want to wait for her to be possibly hit which just allows more innocents to possibly go down before we can take action, depending on what Kash's role is. At the time you voted it was tied 5-5, but you tipped it towards TRS which makes little sense based on what you have said (I am referring to post #314 and #318). I just don't understand why you would'nt want Kash gone as soon as possible in order to get the "information" on those players. Leaving it up to the PR's hits is a very odd way of going about this...

It still isnt "concrete evidence".

I switched to TRS cause i believe him to be rebel scum more so then Kash. Kash's case is based on her early posting, and IMO, not being hit night 1. I still believe lynching Kash would giv alot of info, but TRS is a better case for being scum. So i either take a chance at hitting a PR which could be scum or could be mafia, or hitting a possible rebel scum who doesn't look to be at all mafia. It's an obvious choice for me.