Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)
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So suspects in bold. The more I think about it the more I think that the answer is to be found in the status of JL. If JL is a vampire then the other two are amongst Ogre, JM, Rocker and Annie. If JL is innocent the other three are Zaffy, ZS and Kashta.
You guys can feel free to plug me back in of course (i exclude me because I know what I am) and that puts me in amongst Zaffy, ZS and Kashta. We only reach that point really if JL is not a vampire, which makes Wycco a vampire of course and then out of Zaffy, ZS, Kashta and me there would be two more.
The last point I would make is that in Jpappy's last list of suspects he named JL, JM, lani/rocker...I think someone else too perhaps but can't recall. Bear in mind one of Coler's first rules of scum hunting (scum always name a one or two scum on their lists) and my focus tomorrow presuming JL comes up scum will be on *drum roll*
Paperdragon - reason posted already, JM and Rocker.
Paperdragon - reason posted already, JM and Rocker.
Coler I like your list C of your choices but I'm not sold on Ogre being a vamp. I'm also not sold on Paper even with their attitude toward the game.
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This will be the last time I point this out to you because it is getting annoying. If you read and follow the game without skimming you will see that Rich's vote change caused the 50/50 not mine. I don't mind the vote but you should at least try to get your story straight before posting.
I was thinking the same thing, Ogre.
I went back and looked and Wycco did vote for you. He switched close to nightfall onto Noodles because no one else would follow him. The Kash involvement does throw a curve ball into this thing. Kash can still claim her innocence. If the hunter is still on the side of the town I would suggest you take out Kash tonight. This will clear up a lot. At least we will be taking out 1 from each side tonight as it is highly unlikely that the two of them are on the same team. If JL comes up innocent then we can immediately take out Wycco for lieing and not have to wonder what Kash is. Feel free to object I'm just trying to get some thoughts out there.
Yeah the list c is more plausible on the suspects and tallys with jpappy having a planned exit from the game.
I dovetailed list c with jpappys suspect list to prioritise JM and rocker as the suspects for the other two vamps. For lots of reasons I took Ogre off that list - I don't buy him as vamp.
Paperdragon - yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah it was basically that one particular post that put him in my frame where he was luke warm on wycco being bona fide, but also saying he wasn't sure he was a vamp. Seemed stoopid if not a vampire who was having troubles facing reality (the reality being that JL is a lost cause).
So in joint first JM & Rocker are to be looked at imo, and as a secondary I'm watching paperdragon.
Only thing I would point is, starting with John being a vamp but wycco being the turned seer (even also a vamp but vanilla). The first time wycco lynches an innocent we know this and that gets rid of him. Meanwhile John is a vamp and we lynch him tonight - so there is no downside for tonight's purposes and admittedly trusting wycco if he outs another vamp tomorrow but is lying results in an innocent lynch unless we spot it, wycco then goes the next night.
So over two nights if we lynch JL first but it turns out wycco is a vamp, vamps are down two guaranteed. Innocents are down three including hits. Vamps potentially up more (perhaps enough for a win ?) if they get turns...obviously not good but it would probably leave the vamps needing turns for the win if relying on this strategy. High stakes and no need for it at this stage in the game.
Start with lynching wycco and compare. Lynch wycco...he turns up vamp...and we work from there...probably starting with Kashta as a vampire seeing as how she was named as an innocent. That puts (over two nights) two vamps pretty much guaranteed, innocents are down just the two hits/turns.
Factor in probability. I do still say that in the absence of contradiction of wycco (like a strrrrrrrrrrrrong campaign from someone who knows he's lying) it is more probable that he is telling the truth. That and the fact that JL as vamp fits with my own view on jpappy's exit from the game.
Last thing I think of for now is that I reckon I'm a seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeriously likely hit/turn candidate for tonight if only because I have not been thus far - I am of course not seeking priestly protection but that is why I have been so specific in my thought processes and suspect list so you guys will know if I get flipped.
