Mafia #57: The Great Mafia War- The Game

[Wycco]

lam, I really don't know...

I think it was definately against the rules- but I think if "don't UD" was all he said it is of minor significance- I'm willing to turn my head on that part... especially since you two are friends it would be hard to expect Zaffy not to remind you.

... but it does raise my suspicions somewhat about you two being on a team since we know you HAVE communicated. It may be perfectly innocent as you say- but it does look bad nonetheless.

Still, for now, I'm sticking with Lady G- her voting history and posting history are definately against her.

 

[ZSandmann]

Hmmm...I think the journalists is trying to give us a clue. Lady luck? First thing that comes to mind for me is "lady Luck...............................................................................

Lady Luck=Lady G...that is the first thing that came to mind


I Vote to lynch LadyG

Just got off of work (14 hour day) Mad I missed night.

Those aren't the Journalist's words, those are Pappys. Are you trying to get another conspiracy going since the stinky heads one has been squashed?

I forgot to mention that LG voted two nights in a row to lynch Annie who was an innocent.

So did I and I know my role.

I vote to lynch MC.

Best I have right now.

 

[rich311k]

I am a bit lost. Some good ideas proposed in the last few pages.

The ideas about Lady G make some sense as do the thoughts about Ogre.

I wonder about Z but I always do. He has done nothing worrisome that I can see.

I had not put much thought into MC so I need to loook at that now as well.

For the moment I feel JL is innocent.

 

[rich311k]

i completely agree with wycco.


i vote to lynch LadyG.

That is it. No reason as to what rings true.

 

[Dangerdoll]

A couple of people have asked me this. I was far from the only one who thought Annie was scummy.

Two things stood out to me.

1) The feud between Danger Doll and Annie early on looked forced to me. I know when I was evil with Annie he suggested several times having a feud with someone.

2) Annie claim of RL issues getting in the way (when there was no need to bring that up)- reminded me of him using that same claim twice before when guilty.

3) My four earliest suspects were JL, Ogre, Rbishop and Ice. Of those four- Ice and RBishop are both dead. JL and Ogre I've kind of cooled on- I really don't see anything after day one to make them stand out- other than their ongoing dispute with each other. Annie would be my next pick. No disrespect to Annie, but I think he makes a much better guilty player than innocent because he is so hard to read that he flies under the radar most of the time- yet kicks up a lot of dust that can confuse the innocents.

At this point I'm really not sure. I'll admit to not really having a clue- I need to go through and rationalise the whole thing from day one to see if I can work something out. I think it would help reading the comments starting with day one for everyone knowing now who is guilty and who isn't and putting it into context.

I really have been sick- still am a little bit, but back at work. For those doubting it you can search my post history- I normally have about 8 or 9 a day non-Mafia - I think I've only made one post off of this thread in the last two days.

I missed this "fued" yet I was involved as you say.... how is that?? Just where was this? If you're talking about what I pointed out what Annie said in the beginning of the game, I would hardly call that a fued..... sounds like you are still working hard to throw in twists.... and the list you are throwing out that you are calling "proof" or whatever is all onesided to me too... and that's because of this notation. AND you have it cleverly laid out how it looks like you and Ogre are the innocent ones due to voting patterns. However, I'd like to note though that voting patterns are very deceiving because Mafia doesn't exactly vote for innocents all the time in order for them to blend in... so that list, another sham....

I don't think it's really against the rules, at least the spirit of the rules, for Zaff to remind me it's almost nightfall and I haven't voted yet. Nothing was said beyond that.

Would you rather I had just UD'd? That's not good for anyone.

This is very interesting. Not only that you are unaware of the rules and that Zaffy shouldn't have PMed you unless he was on your team and you have said it for all the town to hear (what a slip up!!).... that I might be able to believe was an honest mistake. But what's even more interesting is that Zaffy KNOWS this rule. He's not exactly a newbie to the game....

 

[Wycco]

sounds like you are still working hard to throw in twists.... and the list you are throwing out that you are calling "proof" or whatever is all onesided to me too...

I'm pointing out things that stuck out as relevant in light of who we now know to be guilty or innocent. If you think the list is onesided draw up your own. It will help the town the more people get involved.

you have it cleverly laid out how it looks like you and Ogre are the innocent ones due to voting patterns. However, I'd like to note though that voting patterns are very deceiving because Mafia doesn't exactly vote for innocents all the time in order for them to blend in... so that list, another sham....

I'm not saying it is a definative list of who is innocent and who is guilty. Yes Mafia will sometimes vote mafia- AND there are two groups of mafia each group trying to remove the other.

I do think it does say something though. Not so much in who voted for Mafia- but rather who voted innocents.

 

[Wycco]

BTW... another theory.

I tried to think why people voted for Annie. I know why I did... but why did everyone else? I can see why Ice was taken down- he seemed to have a handle on the game and seemed to be the most constructive town member.

- but then there was Annie- why would the mafia want Annie. With the number of votes he got- almost certainly there were mafia on him? Well, Rbishop for one was on him. Was it simply that he looked easy to take out?

Why would the mafia want to take out someone who would almost certainly get himself lynched. Annie looks guilty even when innocent. Makes me wonder if the "stinky and smelly" taunts made the mafia think Annie was the journalist. Certainly, he seems to be one for taunting. The thought did cross my mind on day two he might be the journalist which is why I defended him day two rather than going after him.

If so, if the mafia thought he were the journalist you can expect the team to try to take him out.

If Lady G gets lynched tonight and found guilty... especially if on the same team as RBishop- I would look very closely at who else voted for Annie. If Lady G turns out to be mafia- I bet her teammate(s) were probably also on the list of Annie voters.



Just a theory- mind you of what makes sense.

 

[Wycco]

I'm also assuming Lady G is guilty for the theory above. If she is innocent it says nothing.

 

[lanimret]

This is very interesting. Not only that you are unaware of the rules and that Zaffy shouldn't have PMed you unless he was on your team and you have said it for all the town to hear (what a slip up!!).... that I might be able to believe was an honest mistake. But what's even more interesting is that Zaffy KNOWS this rule. He's not exactly a newbie to the game....

/OOC on

I am aware of the rule and so is Zaffy. The exact IM i received was "Are you planning to UD?". That is, nothing else, no further discussion of any kind (except my response of "oh crap") has taken place between Zaffy and I. This has nothing to do with the game itself, there is nothing to read into.

If anyone honestly feels this was inappropriate then you really need to relax. I won't acknowledge this again. If Jpap want's to PM me about it, or a mod, fine, otherwise I consider the issue closed and won't respond to it again in game.

I apologies to everyone for the distraction.

/OOC off

I have a slow day at work today for the first time in awhile so I'll try to make the best of it and stay ontop of the game for once.

 

[Wycco]

Sorry, me again, this is making me not get any work done today and I really need to catch up... I had to take a peak and...

Rbishop, LadyG, ZSand, and JudgeMax all voted for Annie on both nights two and three.

I'm not saying all four are guilty. BUT- it would be very interesting if Lady G turned out to be on RBishop's team.

Does anyone know how many people on a mafia team?