Mafia #69: Ghost Hunters Game Thread

[johnlarson66]

Jl, Y R U visible?

Kash can see me anyway. I really do not feel a desire to be invisible. I used to never be invisible.

 

[johnlarson66]

Maybe FF will switch to Bio.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Ok, Mad, the only ones i can see that refer to me are:
"Who says nobody even considers that you may be a PR"

No one has ever mentioned it, i was just trying to find ways that the people who were voting me could be scum, or at least illogical. I was wrong of course.

You reapeated that again, today.

"do you see the disconect here?"

Yes, but thats just me, and this may not have even been to me.

And that sums up the questions that could be to me.

How about this one, also from #349?

Im just going to run this by you all.

What if the mafia are now using my idiocy to wast an entire day so they can get a leg up on us innocents? investigating me would be the perfect exuse to for them. I am now thinking that people like LR and Maelstrom may be mafia, but only if you guys think it could be true.

But only if you guys think it could be true? Which guys? Why?

As a supposed townie, you seem to be awfully trusting of other people's opinions.

 

[Fishfriend1]

<< Notes votes on Bio... waits for FF to think up a reason why Ice isn't as evil as he was 10 minutes ago >>

:lol:Thats disrespectful. I will only vote bio if i think she is scum.

Kash can see me anyway. I really do not feel a desire to be invisible. I used to never be invisible.

I think that people should be visible, it helps with knowing what they are doing.

 

[Fishfriend1]

How about this one, also from #349?

Ok, missed that, sorry.

By "guys" i meant the town, and not just 3 or 4 of you but 6+ seems good.

 

[IceH2O]

Did a quick skim and see votes flying all over the place. I'm only on lunch break so not enough time to post everything I'd want but should be home tonight to post more before night.I didn't want to give away my thoughts till more votes were laid out.

Ice, saying that you "think FF is innocent" is different than saying that you don't find him scummy.

Then in your comment about Wiz, you say "for all I know he is evil".

Why is it that you're willing to give FF the benefit of the doubt and dub him "innocent," yet when referring to Wiz, the pendulum swings the other way?

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Okay, again, you're pretty sure that FF isn't scum. How? It's one thing to say that you're not finding him scummy based on any scum-tells he's dropped, but what town-tells has he dropped that have you convinced otherwise?

I don't have time to find the post but I explained pretty well in one why I thought FF is innocent, doesn't mean I'm right but its my thought process for now.

Unfortunately, none of this helps us in any way to determine whether Ice is innocent or evil. Ice would respond to this situation exactly as he has done regardless of his role. Ice's reaction to all the scrutiny interests me now a lot less than the reaction this has drawn from other players.

There was one little naggy detail in the back of my mind when I voted Ice.. and I'm giving that a little more weight now than I did yesterday. That is..... JL has become an instigator of sorts in this game who has already (on Day 1) managed to point our focus and our votes toward 2 leading lynch candidates... first FF and then Ice. Whether this was intentional and he's giggling about this in the scum den or unintentional... wish I could tell.

A simple exchange between FF and JL...





....... has resulted in this:




And this:

(5) FF - JL (19) JRR (87) CCM (145) Annie (155) Rich (216) ILM (332)

Whether JL is innocent or evil (for the moment)...... who among those 5 other voters also make good mafia suspects?

I can accept JRR and CCM voting as they did at the time they made their votes. Neither of them have dealt with FF and his nonsense as much as the rest of us have. Fairly quick votes from new (returning) players seems reasonable where FF is concerned.

IMO both Annie and Rich stand out a lot more as potential scum who (when they're evil) generally like to sit back, lie low, and let someone like JL hand FF's head over to us on a silver platter.

As does... the way ILM conveniently jumped on at the end of the line where she likely thinks it'd be easy to claim she was mislead by other opinions should FF get killed and prove to be innocent.

For that matter, Annie's later retraction off FF to vote Lab Rat (all by himself) would be a very good move for scum to disassociate himself from helping to lynch an innocent. Annie's singleton vote on Lab is safer and less consequential once the imminent death of a townie is well assured.

It is my plan that the reactions brought forth by my coming out like that would pull reactions from a certain group. I don't think mafia would have been the 1st few on me. More likely to be innocents. Mafia wouldn't risk the finger pointing from being 1st on.
Mafia would be more likely to protect me so they could point at the innocents for lynching me when I show innocent.

My list for possible mafia, and I'm hoping there aren't this many but its who should be investigated in no certain order:

Dawg
JL
Wiz
LG
Annie

They are all players that wouldn't vote me and made excuses that I saw as protection,except JL who still chided the idea enough to keep it an option for others to vote but nothing he wanted a part of doing himself.

My next few are players that did vote me. Once a couple of votes fell on me it was safe for mafia to vote me as the finger pointing doesn't hit the middle group as fast.But is necessary to keep the train moving.

Bio
Mael


Noods I would look into just for the fact that at the time she tied me backup with FF but I'm wishy washy on her. I just needed a place to put my vote where I didn't think it would matter to see how other votes fell. Noods could be mafia so I'd also investigate her just because it would bother me not to and her vote is OMGUS.

Thats 8 players to look into, obviously they can't all be mafia unless Zaffy is trying to make this game impossible to win. I'd be willing to think 5 at most. My 3 least expected mafia would be Noods,Mael and Wiz,because he is voting Bio.


Heh I got most of what I wanted to post in after all....

 

[Fishfriend1]

Ok, missed that, sorry.

By "guys" i meant the town, and not just 3 or 4 of you but 6+ seems good.

And why, because i wanted to see who believed in that and who didnt, but no one answered so it never came through.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Did a quick skim and see votes flying all over the place. I'm only on lunch break so not enough time to post everything I'd want but should be home tonight to post more before night.I didn't want to give away my thoughts till more votes were laid out.



I don't have time to find the post but I explained pretty well in one why I thought FF is innocent, doesn't mean I'm right but its my thought process for now.



It is my plan that the reactions brought forth by my coming out like that would pull reactions from a certain group. I don't think mafia would have been the 1st few on me. More likely to be innocents. Mafia wouldn't risk the finger pointing from being 1st on.
Mafia would be more likely to protect me so they could point at the innocents for lynching me when I show innocent.

My list for possible mafia, and I'm hoping there aren't this many but its who should be investigated in no certain order:

Dawg
JL
Wiz
LG
Annie

They are all players that wouldn't vote me and made excuses that I saw as protection,except JL who still chided the idea enough to keep it an option for others to vote but nothing he wanted a part of doing himself.

My next few are players that did vote me. Once a couple of votes fell on me it was safe for mafia to vote me as the finger pointing doesn't hit the middle group as fast.But is necessary to keep the train moving.

Bio
Mael


Noods I would look into just for the fact that at the time she tied me backup with FF but I'm wishy washy on her. I just needed a place to put my vote where I didn't think it would matter to see how other votes fell. Noods could be mafia so I'd also investigate her just because it would bother me not to and her vote is OMGUS.

Thats 8 players to look into, obviously they can't all be mafia unless Zaffy is trying to make this game impossible to win. I'd be willing to think 5 at most. My 3 least expected mafia would be Noods,Mael and Wiz,because he is voting Bio.


Heh I got most of what I wanted to post in after all....

They may do that just to hide better. if you never think the first are mafia then the whole team could be hiding in the first votes for variuse people.

Are you trying to spread out the bush kicking? If they cant all be mafia why put them all up? As for the 3 least likly, well, 2 of them are on my most likely list and you are the third on it so it could be defending.

All said and done, i still think ice is the most likely scum person here.

 

[Kashta]

:lol:Thats disrespectful. I will only vote bio if i think she is scum.



I think that people should be visible, it helps with knowing what they are doing.

No disrespect intended, FF.

And voting someone to save yourself from a lynch isn't a scum-tell either when it's done well in advance of nightfall. (Not waiting until the last minute.)

Presuming you're innocent, that's a pro-town action because you're saving someone (yourself) who's on the town side. If you're scum, you're lying (per se) to everyone anyway about most of your viewpoints/arguments.

 

[Fishfriend1]

No disrespect intended, FF.

And voting someone to save yourself from a lynch isn't a scum-tell either when it's done well in advance of nightfall. (Not waiting until the last minute.)

Presuming you're innocent, that's a pro-town action because you're saving someone (yourself) who's on the town side. If you're scum, you're lying (per se) to everyone anyway about most of your viewpoints/arguments.

I still need a good reason to lynch bio, other then to save myself.

Can we have a vote list plz?