Mafia 95 - "Mayor's Mansion" (The Play)

I went back to immediately post nightfall to see what stuck out.

Two townies and the vigilante, i knew it you scumy *******s convinced everyone FF was scum....We need to stick together to lynch some scum and find the boss.
MC, I don't get this. FF convinced many people he was scum with his lying. Are you saying those who didn't vote FF aren't scum? I just don't understand this post. Were you sure FF wasn't scum?

Personally, I would like to hear more from everyone. I have had it up to here with losing 3 innocents D1 due to lack of input and not seeing the warning signs that the scum are pleased with how things are going.
I don't think we lost 3 innocents due to lack of input. We lost 1 due to his making himself look scummy through lying (I still don't understand what was going through his head), we lost another to a hit, and we lost a third due to lack of respect for/commitment to the game itself.

I do not see the DD thing but subtle hints are all we have to go on right now. I find Noods being the hit interesting as I think other players would have been a more likely choice.
I find the Noods hit interesting as well.

I prefaced the vote with for the moment. I was fully expecting to move it and was watching the thread very closely with my retraction all ready to go right up to night. It was never about a vote for DD but I did want to see what others might do with that vote.
Chill, why was night 1 ending in a tie so important to you?

If spencer is looking scummiest to you then why would you vote FF.


then later even though spencer is the one you find the scummiest you "fine" with your vote on FF. If you though spencer was scum then why not vote him and save FF who is a now know innocent, who you thought was less scummy then the guy who still alive and playing and could be scum. I'll be whatching you UN but I'd like to hear your thoughts on these quotes first.
NPR brings up a good point here. UN, why did you vote FF if Spencer was the scummiest to you?

If Pir had voted I would have maintained the tie. I didn't move cause I had no stronger feel for either of the two on the block.
Again, why was it so important to you that night 1 end in a tie?

Well, I'm not so much commenting on DD more so on how MC's theory is illogical.
His theory makes no sense to me either.

That's my logic, in the games I played in the past it seems like the mafia play both cards and try to hide in their voting. Yes I did also vote spence but I was also one who did not vote FF when most everyone else was so convinced he was mafia. IMO there were really no other suspects on my list at the time. Now I am thinking mafia is confortable with their vote and are being quiet and didnt care either way if it was spence or FF.

But jpapp, it would also of been much more obvious being she was one of the last to vote. I guess at the same time if spence would of been killed and innocent would of been more obvious. I see where you are coming from in a way I guess.
So why was Spencer a suspect but FF wasn't? They both lied and got caught.

If you wanted to vote and not stand out as a lone vote, DD was the logical choice, she was out there and had some votes. Voting her instead of being the kill vote on the who played worse tie was a perfect place to hide and of course today you can say "see I knew FF was just being FF", same would apply to Spence, assuming he is a townie as well.

I understand the worry since the quiet would mean a happy mafia team but Wiz that was pretty over the top alarmism, it is day one and the odds are stacked completely against us.
Agree that DD was the safe vote and the perfect place to hide.

I had doubts as well and was content to let a tie play out. What do you think of Wiz's offer to JB to put himself up for a run off? Seems pretty doubt free to me?
Were you afraid to be a kill vote?

Grenade or NERF dart, who cares? The point is that you threw it. Doesn't make sense seeing that Wiz has been giving you warm fuzzies inside.

The object of the game is for the town to work together, and apparently you've been liking what you've been seeing from Wiz. So why lob that NERF dart his way? If you're town and feeling good about him, wouldn't you want others to feel the same way too?

I mean it's fine if you were asking a question for further clarification, but you tossed something at him that he couldn't defend against. Kind of a weird way to show your blossoming trust for him.
No one gives me the warm fuzzies at this point. I said I can understand why Wiz was saying about scum being happy with how things were going. Never did I say I trusted him. In fact, it strikes me as convenient that MC's reasoning for why he picked me is exactly what Wiz postulated when he flippantly dismissed my off-the-wall thoughts.

The easiest place to hide was to vote FF. He looked guilty, almost half the town was voting him, and even if he rolled innocent, there would be no repercussions for me as the vote was reasonable.

I'm answering questions cause they were asked and I'm here to answer. I don't lie low as scum I play for fun and there's no fun in hiding.

Feel free to watch and by all means vote for me if you decide I'm scum.
I disagree. It would have been easy to hide on any of the three. At the point when you voted, DD was the easiest place to hide. To me, it looks like you wanted to avoid being a kill vote on either FF or Spencer. Why is that Chill? You seemed plenty happy that either would go in a tie so why not take a stance and vote for the one you thought was the scummiest?
 
LG, papp always plays his roles good either mafia, PR or townie, is he always someone to watch yes but I never said he wasn't innocent but he hasnt said anything to make me think otherwise. Why would you come in with limited computer time and ask me this of all things? Has papp said anything to make you lean towards mafia, am I missing something please let me know?

I guess it don't really make sense why she would and I guess that she could of placed a vote somewhere else. But what if chill or our UD would of came in and placed a vote on FF then DD would not of looked too guilty at all as others placed a vote on Spence.

I would also like to know?

Are you saying you helped lynch an innocent really?

Dawg (481) Wizard (600) Chill (733) DD (645) Ok, so wizard, chill and dawg voted to lynch DD in the first night. Today has turned up some suspicion on wizard and chill, we will get to that later. Look at the final votes on DD minus dawgs vote, Wizzards vote was late and then chill was last to cast a vote. Neither of them had much to say about DD beforehand. Those votes to me were safety votes, dawg may also of been playing safe.

I am not going to repeat myself over and over again.

How is it scummy please elaborate?

i havent seen you answer the question once, and if you did answer it, it probably didnt make much sense since people are still talking about you not answering it.
 
No no delusions of trapping scum before nightfall just looking for information for the days to follow.
What kind of information are you talking about? Your last minute vote for DD bothers me.

I've reread her posts, I don't think she ruffled any feathers, I also don't think she gave away her role, so it looks random. That's curious to me. G likes random hits and you guys were successful with random last game. So could be nothing but it makes me wonder.
Here you say DD didn't give away her role, you also say she didn't ruffle any feathers so again why the last minute vote for DD?

Well I'm glad I'm bothering you cause the only time I don't is when you're scum. I seen reasons to vote for either of them. Being FF and noob the reasons were not conclusive. Either or both could have been scum I was more content with a coin flip then a guess.
Content with the coin flip is this why you felt your vote was safe on DD?
 
MC, I don't get this. FF convinced many people he was scum with his lying. Are you saying those who didn't vote FF aren't scum? I just don't understand this post. Were you sure FF wasn't scum?
No I am not saying who didn't vote FF were scum. I am saying that FF was innocent and now we know that we have to work together to find mafia and sometimes the best place to start is look at who did not vote for the one who was lynched and who cast somewhat random votes near night end.

i havent seen you answer the question once, and if you did answer it, it probably didnt make much sense since people are still talking about you not answering it.
I posted this a few posts back. "I guess it don't really make sense why she would and I guess that she could of placed a vote somewhere else. But what if chill or our UD would of came in and placed a vote on FF then DD would not of looked too guilty at all as others placed a vote on Spence."
 
No I am not saying who didn't vote FF were scum. I am saying that FF was innocent and now we know that we have to work together to find mafia and sometimes the best place to start is look at who did not vote for the one who was lynched and who cast somewhat random votes near night end.

I posted this a few posts back. "I guess it don't really make sense why she would and I guess that she could of placed a vote somewhere else. But what if chill or our UD would of came in and placed a vote on FF then DD would not of looked too guilty at all as others placed a vote on Spence."

Does it not seem risky to place a vote on a teammate which ties it up and then assume that one of the two people yet to vote would break the tie? Pir had been a no show all day.
 
Chill sits in the dark drinking Scotch and waits to see what happens next. He turns up his headphones while he waits

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While everyone's waiting for the power outage to end...

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We really won't know how quiet the scum were until we know your role. What concerns me the most about your gut feeling is that you were suddenly so certain that we had two innocents that you offered yourself up for a run off tonight if one turned scum. I had doubts but it could have went either way I wouldn't be offering myself up for a lynch in that situation.

I guess that is where we differ. I would rather my team win than say "I made it to the end of the game".
 
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