Mafia #98: The Grinch Returns -- The Play

Plus why wait to bring up he's the grinch, lg could have said that earlier, she appears very pro town but held back that kind of information
 
jpappy789 said:
Ooops, to LG's first post I wanted to say that I went back and checked my roles and the only one for the innocents' that would make sense is this...

Sugarplum Mary- if given to an evil elf they are no longer in communication

But no mention of "sugar cookies" in my notes. Also Lab could have easily changed those around.
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JP, below I pull the PM to Kashta in the game you ran.

Good elf "powers"

Kashta
You are an innocent elf by the name of Sugarplum Mary. As top sweets-maker in the North Pole, no one can resist your famous Christmas sugar cookies. That is why, if delivered to an evil elf, they will convince the player to stop communicating with their leader for the rest of the game. However, you only have one chance to deliver the cookies to any player you believe has a connection with the Grinch.



Just when I think I know how to vote I see something that holds me back.
 
Could you explain the contradiction here?
 
jpappy789 said:
I highly doubt AAF made a false RC.
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I doubt that he would do it on his own, he could've very easily been told to by a team-mate. That's what worries me, is that he get's cleared so quickly. Like I said before, I don't think that he IS scum, I just don't feel comfortable with all out clearing him.

Lady G said:
Mornin to ya!!

Yeah, I just dunno Wizard...I keep thinking maybe we can find something in the votes, but end up with my head spinning in all the possibilities. I wish we knew for sure how many we started with, we know for sure the Grinch and at least ONE other, with a NC. We KNOW someone was turned (either to innocent or evil not to which way they were turned). So at this point with Kash coming up as evil, we know we have the Grinch with a possible turn, we don't know if there were any others from the beginning. Then throw Bally in there with her claim she nipped Pap...now whoever was nipped would know they were right? I assume they would get a message saying they were nipped and now playing for the other side, maybe Pap isn't allowed to say that he was in fact nipped and why he hasn't confirmed that, or maybe he just doesn't want to confirm the fact the nip went to him, leaving doubt on Bally for the rest of the town, if that is the case I can only see him as being turned evil...or possibly since the Grinch would not be effected...maybe he was the Grinch and not informed the nip went to him? Then there is also the possibility Bally is lying and not really Jack, I don't know but I can't help but feel there is something between Pap and Bally.
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I thought that the NC elf was DD? Unless one of the evil elves were hit by the cookies pap was talking about, then I believe that all the bad guys should be communicating. Was this a slip LG, do you happen to know information that the rest of the town doesn't?
 
Ballyhoo said:
Plus why wait to bring up he's the grinch, lg could have said that earlier, she appears very pro town but held back that kind of information
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I do think it odd that she would post that as she is leaving, knowing that it would raise questions. I am still on the fence here.

I could tie it for a coin toss or I could force a lynch. Not sure yet how I will go.
 
user_name said:
I doubt that he would do it on his own, he could've very easily been told to by a team-mate. That's what worries me, is that he get's cleared so quickly. Like I said before, I don't think that he IS scum, I just don't feel comfortable with all out clearing him.



I thought that the NC elf was DD? Unless one of the evil elves were hit by the cookies pap was talking about, then I believe that all the bad guys should be communicating. Was this a slip LG, do you happen to know information that the rest of the town doesn't?
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Are you really that far behind?
 
the wizard said:
These are all of UN's posts. I see a couple of questions here and there, mostly directed at Dunn when he was being grilled. No real bush kicking though. Why is that UN?
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I'm not sure how to respond to this, I feel like it makes more sense to be an active participant (as much as possible), and try to point things out as I see them, rather than going out of my way to "grill" players or kick bushes.
 
user_name said:
I'm not sure how to respond to this, I feel like it makes more sense to be an active participant (as much as possible), and try to point things out as I see them, rather than going out of my way to "grill" players or kick bushes.
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Kicking bushes is how we find scum. It does the town no good what so ever to post in the game just to be active. If all you do is answer questions without kicking bushes you are not helping IMO.
 
Current vote count:
Wiz (0) - AAF (#725), FF (#740)
FF (1) - Dawg (#785)
Dawg (1) - FF (#789)
Pappy (1) - LG #790, Bally (#802)
LG (2) - Pappy (#809), Bally (#826)

No votes: everyone else.


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