Define Overstocking.

I have a simple rule I follow.... If your fish tank and fish look crowded,it's overcrowded. If not you're fine. :thm: The "one inch rule " is pretty much a better safe than sorry guideline for beginers and is bogus...
 
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Is this considered overstocking? Im just making this up.

10 gallon
4 guppies
3 female bettas
1 male betta
1 kuhli loach
2 platys
 
if your tank is OS or not is totally dependant on the type of fish in the tank, along with their size.

the tank's size has alot to do with it also. for example, if you want a neon species tank... a 10 gallon can support only ten, but a 100 gallon tank could easily have 125-135 possilby more, because there is much more room in the tank.

i also agree with rbisop... it has alot to do with common sense.

the person themselves can have something to do with it too. if a newbie OS, it is usually with a huge ammount of fish in a small tank, or a few gaint fish in a small tank. when a seasoned aquarist overstockes, it is a little different. fist of all, they understand the fish's needs etc. and already have the weater change schedule down, and are willing to put on some extra filtration.
 
I think one would have to also include in the overstocked discussion, the terms

inappropriately stocked (temps, foods, chemistry, behavior, tankmates, etc)

inappropriately maintained (water changes, vacs, food, chemistry, lighting, flow, temp, etc)
 
I just ask my fish if they are happy. If they are, then all is well.
 
Someday I will conquer that Vulcan Fishy Mind Meld.
 
How are these two concepts different? If I keep a fish in a 20g growout tank for a few weeks while the other larger tank sits empty, how is that any different from keeping the same fish in a growout tank for a few weeks until I BUY a larger tank? Obviously, since I'm using a growout tank in this hypothetical situation, I'm not putting a fish in there that's too large for the tank. No half grown arowanas or things of that nature. I'm talking about buying juvenile fish that have the potential to get larger.....like a 2 inch oscar or a 3 or 4 inch siver arowana. Use your imagination to pick a fish of a reasonable size for the tank knowing that it WILL be moved.

Maybe I'm assuming too many people will follow through with the purchase of a larger tank. I don't know. But, if they're even familiar with the concept of a growout tank, can't you assume that they're intentions to move a fish to a larger tank are indeed genuine and that they WILL follow through?

Now, if someone has 10 6 inch fish in a 10 gallon and they get berated for it and then counter with, "Oh, I'm getting a 1 million gallon tank next week" you know they're full of crap. However, if someone says that they've got a 2 or 3 inch juvenile oscar in a 20 gallon and they have to wait a few weeks to get a larger tank, I'm inclined to believe that they're going to get that tank. You just have to look at the situation and go by whatever info they give you.

As for the orginal topic, I go by number of fish occupying each "niche" in the tank, ability to maintain perfect water params with a normal water change schedule (one pwc a week or every 2 weeks), and presentation of "normal" behavior, which I guess means that I also consider the needs of individual species in the stocking level. If you have fish that are likely to be aggressive in confined spaces and they show that behavior then you're overstocked with regards to that fish. If your fish needs a lot of open space to swim, be it on the bottom or in the water column, and you have a whole bunch of obstacles or other fish in the way then you're overstocked.

I guess if you're overstocked your fish are going to be the ones that let you know. You just have to know what signs to look for. Of course, that doesn't preclude you from using common sense.........that's a lot to ask of our species, I know.

you are assuming too many people will follow through with the purchase of a larger tank.

the thing is some times things happen and the money you had for that 200 gal is now gone. the fish is now stuck in a small tank.

my point was just people always say (lie) well i am getting a 200 gal tank.
 
i basically make sure the fish have plenty of space to swim, are in the right groups(like corys need groups whereas male bettas should not be kept together) with I guess connects to compatibility, and then make sure I can keep water params good without to much work
 
Is this considered overstocking? Im just making this up.

10 gallon
4 guppies
3 female bettas
1 male betta
1 kuhli loach
2 platys
yes, because kuhlis get to big for a 10 gallon, and male and female bettas will tear each other apart.
 
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