Define Overstocking.

i think that goes for most fish keeping. i always say the only rule is there is no rules. each set up is so different. one good way is water quality if you cant keep the nitrates down you might be overstocked. know people that got into plants not because the like them but they can hold more fish in the tank with them.

I changed what I said as you were quoting me apparently. What I said was too easy to answer so I decided to go with something else lol..


I will agree that this thread will end with what you have just said. No one knows, because there is no definitive answer to my original question.




I still want to hear (and contest) what else there is to be said.
 
so, 1 12" Royal poopmachine in like 180G with a few other fish is OS?
 
Please elaborate on # 1 and 2.
They are fairly vague and can be interpreted differently.

1. Swimming space--The adult size of the fish compared to the dimensions of the tank

2. Number of fish--Goes along with #1, the adult size of all of the fish compared to the size of the tank; how many top, mid, bottom dwellars there are
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#1 is basically whether the fish is going to fit inside the tank and be able to move around freely. Does it have to bend it's body to turn around in the tank? Does it have room to move around and not just sit there all day because there is no room? If it gets startled, is it going to be able to go into a mad dash without crashing into the glass and hurting itself?

#2 is whether the fish has room to move around and not be bumping into other fish all the time, and whether a fish can get away when it needs to. 8 guppies won't take up too much bioload in a 10 gallon tank, but with no place for the female to escape the males, the females are going to be harrassed to death.

The top, mid, bottom dwellar part is whether there are too many fish that stick to the same level. Like keeping cories in a 10 gallon. 8 is the magic number again, just like before, the tank can handle the bioload, but those cories are going to be awful crowded down on the bottom.
 
I changed what I said as you were quoting me apparently. What I said was too easy to answer so I decided to go with something else lol..


I will agree that this thread will end with what you have just said. No one knows, because there is no definitive answer to my original question.




I still want to hear (and contest) what else there is to be said.

I WIN



i also dont believe in buying a fish unless you have the room for it. saying oh it will be fine in this 20 gal because i am getting a 200 gal is not ok. now if you had this 200 gal and wanted to grow it out in a smaller tank thats fine.

and since we are on this topic.... why do when ever you tell someone they are overstocked they are always getting or will be getting a 200 gal.
 
there's some nuts out there who say your overstocked, but if you have decent filtration and change out enough water..your fine..
 
so, 1 12" Royal poopmachine in like 180G with a few other fish is OS?
can i ask you an earnest question ghost_knife?(i dont mean this in a bad way just an earnest question)
are you a bitter person or do u just like to be sarcastic? i see you sometimes putting down people or being negative arent moderators sposed to be uplifting an kind? its fine if your just being funny (i laughed) but sometimes i feel discouraged when i read ur replies.
 
yes.
 
there's some nuts out there who say your overstocked, but if you have decent filtration and change out enough water..your fine..

Who, me?

Yea, I probably am overstocked, but I have so many live plants that nitrates never go above 10ppm. The wisteria give plenty of hiding so all is well.
 
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