MAFIA #5 The Play.....

[Coler]

i misread...in fact you said 'one even voted for me' so a) doesn't apply

 

[Sploke]

O jeeeez! Here we go...jo, you really need to read game 4 and see how cl's nonsense posting got'em in trouble. I can't tell if you are just really confused or a slipped-up mafia because you're a newb.

I really suspicious of joander. The "I'm new" thing is just as bad as the "I'm innocent" gag. If you are new then definitely follow Ice's advice. I got called out on a lot of things last game and I was new, but jo you took things farther than that...I'm tempted to vote for you. I see you as someone who is too "excited"

These two posts are the ones I was referring to. Like I said, at the time when jo was under high suspicion (well, I guess he still is, but anyway), I noted that your postings could have been construed as one mafia to another saying "cool it". Dunno if anyone else got the same vibe.

 

[jpappy789]

I guess that could work, but if I was mafia and wanted to talk with another mafia I would just use pm rather than give anything away in the forum.

 

[Sploke]

Sorry...you're still on my list.

b) If JM is mafia there is one clear and good reason why she would not have jumped on me voting for you...take a guess ?

Yes, as you so eloquently pointed out, if JM is mafia, and I were mafia, she would not try to start a train to lynch me. However, if JM is innocent, and she were honest, she also wouldn't start a lynch train against me. So yes, the fact that I'm suspicious of her would seem strange, which is why its got me so freakin frustrated.

What we know about JM:
she voted early - apparently calling out jo on a "mafia slip-up"
she stuck with that vote through all the changes

We don't know that jo is, in fact mafia...knowing that would probably help, but we don't. If jo is mafia, it is highly unlikely, to me, that she would have thrown the vote out there so early and stuck with it if she were also mafia. If jo is not mafia and jm is, it is also likely she would have stuck with the vote. So, in conclusion, JM is either mafia or innocent. :mad2: Your choices listed above seem dodgy to everyone but me, since I know I am innocent, so it makes sense to me that JM is also innocent, based on her actions. As far as the posting style goes, maybe I'm just way off base with that and she's just kind of flaky (no offense JM ).

 

[KingOfTheDeep]

I never said I was entirely convinced, Just that I was more sure of him, and that I regret switching my intuition last game, I do not want to make the same mistake this game.

since you all seem to think, that people will blindly follow me, (evidentially not true, because I was the first to vote for jo, and CL2 was lynched)Why are you guys asking for my list?..

I also saw some strange things, although, I can not be sure, what I saw was an innocent, with a special role, or a very "unsmart" mafia, I would like to think, the latter, rather than the former, which is why I chose my comments the way I did last night.


i also said, I wanted a lil time to form an opinion, SO, without further ado, ..Heres what I am thinking:

1) I still hate to swing from JO, I am not sure 100% on any one, So, at this point, I am watching, and seeing some very desperate moves.

2) sploke - why are you so willing to just trust, The point of the game, IMHO, is to respect their opinions, but trusting them this early, Is dangerous.

3) JL66, very smart, a little to quite this game

4) KOTD, he is a reserved player, until you hit his button, Am a Little concerned here.

5)ogre- STILL VERY HELPFUL POSTS, .smart player, ..worth watching, But no opinion yet

6) coler- as far as I am concerned, at this point you are Innocent

7)bkw- i like his style of play, he gives me pause, because I am never really sure how to read him.

8)cory lover- I don't know, LOL, he plays so far from base each game, I think innocent, at this point

9) Mee-Mee- SHE IS PLAYING MUCH DIFFRENT, i AM LEANING INNOCENT

10) Zs - well, truth be told, I am sorta watching him, he caught on fast, and is a very good player, he doesn't give away much in his posts, but that makes me concerned .

I have a busy day, I have two dogs, to home, as having 7 dogs here, is way to many, lol, I also have an interview for the final puppy, which means, I will be a lil sad today

I also have some pictures to edit, and retouch, I will probably be watching, and posting if I get time, ..so, YOU ALL NOW HAVE MY THOUGHTS.

lol..this is just how i play this game, im going to wait until i see any signs of mafia, then i will post with a lynch vote, or some observations, jo is the only one i suspect now and i really hope im right about him.

I was mafia last game..so i was defensive when called out..im playing this game much more comfortably since i am not mafia this time around

 

[ZSandmann]

JM I'm sorry but there are some strange undertones in your game this round. I can't nail it just yet. I'm going to give Coler the benefit of the doubt for right now, this vote is subject to change, I won't let myself be railroaded again. (I hope)

I vote to lynch JudgeMax

 

[Coler]

Right now I'm split between a vote for JM or Ice. JM's postings are just making me nervous, it seems every 5 minutes she's got an excuse as to why she won't be around...thats fine, we all have lives (well some of us, I don't...) but I dunno something just strikes me as off. Ice's vote change last night caught me as strange as well. but I just don't know what to think of it. I've reviewed the flurry of posts in the last hour or so before night last night, and feel more unsure than ever about anything, so I'm not voting now, but unless something drastic changes, my vote tonight will be for one of those two. Whoever the mafia is this time around, they're doing a good job of keeping us confused. The events last night helped a little but not much. We now know that coler is most likely innocent, but still no sure leads on possible mafia. Blast.

By the way if anyone thinks I'm crazy with either of those two, please give me some other options. Like I said, just hunches, I would love some reasoning or solid justification.

I don't disagree one bit with your reasoning here (btw 'most likely'; its a bit stronger than that. Try 100%) so at least we are in agreement that JM is a suspect

 

[Sploke]

I guess that could work, but if I was mafia and wanted to talk with another mafia I would just use pm rather than give anything away in the forum.

Right, but by posting that, especially to someone who was almost sure to get lynched, you at least can save yourself...if you post it as a suspicion, and jo turns out guilty, it would help you to look innocent. Just an observation.

 

[Coler]

These two since last night :

Actually, it wasn't you, that i saw pmming, lol, But it does make sense, so I will let that go for now, But, that wasn't the only thing I saw, you musn't think, that I am stupid enough, to just rely on that?..LOL, we all know how to avoid
getting caught pmmingnow, simply by discussion of the last game, Unfortunately, I also am smart enough to watch for diversion tactics..and I saw some of those to, Like I said, I am watching, and will be watching, I will post my results after I am satisfied, that I have a strong suspect, that I can be sure, isint a good guy, I almost made that mistake last game, i WON'T BE DOING IT AGAIN, ....

um, you might want to rethink that statement, hn, i did catch someone pmming, they all have to come back here, to get their pms, some one wasn't careful,
I must admit, though, that it was rough, And, I am having hard time using time stamps, because so many people were there this time to "wait"..

Judgemax, I really want to know who you have spotted. It's ok you can just say they are your suspects, no one needs to be offended, and then we will talk about them. It would help the town.

 

[Sploke]

Ok, as it stands right now, after going through the thread about a dozen times for various responses, I am reluctantly planning on voting jm tonight. Here is my line of thought. If she is mafia, and several of us have suspicions, then its one down, and a good one at that. If she is innocent, she ends up being the sacrificial lamb, which will help us sort out a few things, hopefully. I really don't feel comfortable doing this right now, but I vote to lynch judgemax.