Back in the trenches......
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that is gorgeous,! I had no idea you did wood working and such a pretty peice too! It will look great in your place
Regardless of what you end up putting in it I am guessing it will give you alot of enjoyment and relaxation.
Regardless of what you end up putting in it I am guessing it will give you alot of enjoyment and relaxation.
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That was my thought as well, so I looked online for one and couldn't find one. Then went to Eheim's website. Nothing there for the 2017. Then emailed them, which was where I found out that the 2017 has not been produced in over a decade and parts are no longer made for it. I did find out that many 2217 parts are interchangeable, such as the canister, pump cover, o rings. Since I do own a 2217 as well, I compared the two impellers. The 2217 magnet/impeller assembly is in fact larger in diameter than the 2017, so a 2217 magnet will not fit into the 2017 magnet bay of the pump.
Like I said, a work in progress. Not a woodworker, but this isn't really brain surgery either. I am looking for it for the relaxation, which is why I DO NOT want a noisy pump. The noise the elephants will make running back and for trumpeting would also be a setback in my living room. Never mind the noises they make when breeding! I think I will stick to shrimp, plants and guppies!L lousyweather that is gorgeous,! I had no idea you did wood working and such a pretty peice too! It will look great in your place
Nice hoods! I am going LED for lighting, and think I may forgo the hood. I worry a bit about heat buildup, and don't want a contraption like I had with my metal halides in the reef, with fans just for cooling....again, more noise. I had 4 kids, still one at home I am trying to sell, and relish quiet. The only thing with no hood is light spillage into the room, buuut, since my photoperiod will only be 6-8 hours, that's daytime anyhow. At night, the lights will only be in moonlight mode or off, thereby allowing me to enjoy my disco mirrorball and multicolored dancelights. Also, with diminished noise, I can better hear music from the glory days, the 70's and 80's! Dang, I forgot, I need to get my white polyester suit cleaned!You call that woodworking!?Kidding!
That looks awesome! Gonna be very fancy! I love DIY but most of it doesn't end up too fancy. lol Well, a couple of my canopies are nice, if you get bored and wanna browse them... 72g Canopy (starts at post 26) and 33 flat back hex (starts at post 1
You never know when you might need to house an elephant in your tank, good job being prepared!!
I looked for it and I couldn't find this "mess" in your cellar?? My basement is SOOOOOO much scarier! lol
Or elephant nose
! Haha just kidding. Your woodworking job is great. Infact it looks sturdy and beautiful at the same time. Oh and nice job on the touch of bullnose. Makes it just that much better .STILL working on the stand....its built, 2 coats of urethane so far, will post a finished picture in about 5 more coats...(late next week?)
Being OCD though, I am now concerned that with some plants, and pumping CO2 into the 70, that I wont have enough O2 for the motile inhabitants...fish and shrimp. I'm going to control the CO2 with a pH probe/solenoid combo, basically setting a point where, if the pH gets high enough, the solenoid opens, CO2 enters. If the pH gets low enough, the solenoid closes, killing CO2 into the tank. This way, I don't have to timer everything, CO2 should cutoff when the plants are in a low photosynthesis cycle (lights off- nighttime). So, since I kind of don't like bubble coming into the tank thru and airstone/pump combo, what do you guys (and girls!) think about Y-ing off one of my Eheim 2217s, pumping air into a reactor(via an air pump),- yep, yet another left over from reef days, filled with bioballs, and returning this to the tank via a spraybar. It is also a distinct possibility that I am overthinking this and may not need to add air at all, just DONT want to find that out the hard way!
Originally looked at dosing pumps, but I think I will hold off until the plants get established. I will cycle the tank with plantings. As for fish, light...very very light, at first, during cycle....some female guppies? Do you guys think Oto's will survive a cycle? I don't want to get off on the wrong foot with algae.
Being OCD though, I am now concerned that with some plants, and pumping CO2 into the 70, that I wont have enough O2 for the motile inhabitants...fish and shrimp. I'm going to control the CO2 with a pH probe/solenoid combo, basically setting a point where, if the pH gets high enough, the solenoid opens, CO2 enters. If the pH gets low enough, the solenoid closes, killing CO2 into the tank. This way, I don't have to timer everything, CO2 should cutoff when the plants are in a low photosynthesis cycle (lights off- nighttime). So, since I kind of don't like bubble coming into the tank thru and airstone/pump combo, what do you guys (and girls!) think about Y-ing off one of my Eheim 2217s, pumping air into a reactor(via an air pump),- yep, yet another left over from reef days, filled with bioballs, and returning this to the tank via a spraybar. It is also a distinct possibility that I am overthinking this and may not need to add air at all, just DONT want to find that out the hard way!
Originally looked at dosing pumps, but I think I will hold off until the plants get established. I will cycle the tank with plantings. As for fish, light...very very light, at first, during cycle....some female guppies? Do you guys think Oto's will survive a cycle? I don't want to get off on the wrong foot with algae.
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Glad to hear you are making progress. You are overthinking it. 
The plants produce so much O2 in a balanced high tech setup that they pearl with O2 bubbles because the water can't absorb it anymore/fast enough. And there is plenty leftover to get them through the night. Besides a CO2 malfunction I've never seen a lack of O2 in a planted tank but a surplus MANY times.
A few guppies would be fine for "cycling" (in a heavily planted tank the cycle isn't really there) but I would avoid Otos in the beginning. Some people do have success adding them early but far more don't. Otos need lots of natural food especially when first being introduced to your tank so you want the tank very mature before adding.
Don't worry about algae yet. Keep the lighting low and short, about 6 hours, until your plants are established a bit then they should be able to handle your algae control by using all the nutrients faster then the algae can. But they do need that time to adjust to your water, environment and put down some roots before you crank up the lights cause that excess light has nothing to feed but algae if the plants are not in "growing" mode. I've made that mistake before! hehe
The plants produce so much O2 in a balanced high tech setup that they pearl with O2 bubbles because the water can't absorb it anymore/fast enough. And there is plenty leftover to get them through the night. Besides a CO2 malfunction I've never seen a lack of O2 in a planted tank but a surplus MANY times.A few guppies would be fine for "cycling" (in a heavily planted tank the cycle isn't really there) but I would avoid Otos in the beginning. Some people do have success adding them early but far more don't. Otos need lots of natural food especially when first being introduced to your tank so you want the tank very mature before adding.
Don't worry about algae yet. Keep the lighting low and short, about 6 hours, until your plants are established a bit then they should be able to handle your algae control by using all the nutrients faster then the algae can. But they do need that time to adjust to your water, environment and put down some roots before you crank up the lights cause that excess light has nothing to feed but algae if the plants are not in "growing" mode. I've made that mistake before! hehe
Lousy, I could be wrong because I have not kept very many, but I remember when they moved around it was in a very fast fashion, reminded me of pictus cats, which was NOT relaxing for me to watch. Just thought.
Yup, typical for me....overthinking and over complicating things! So, no added ferts initially either? Root tabs? Well, almost there! I just want to get the stand done! SO tired of sanding and urethane!Glad to hear you are making progress. You are overthinking it.
A few guppies would be fine for "cycling" (in a heavily planted tank the cycle isn't really there) but I would avoid Otos in the beginning. Some people do have success adding them early but far more don't. Otos need lots of natural food especially when first being introduced to your tank so you want the tank very mature before adding.
Don't worry about algae yet. Keep the lighting low and short, about 6 hours, until your plants are established a bit then they should be able to handle your algae control by using all the nutrients faster then the algae can. But they do need that time to adjust to your water, environment and put down some roots before you crank up the lights cause that excess light has nothing to feed but algae if the plants are not in "growing" mode. I've made that mistake before! hehe
I have a vacation planned in April, so I won't actually fill the tank and add plants before then, but hope to set up and plumb the system prior to that. I am also soaking a beautiful piece of Mopani driftwood now. The tannin leeching really isn't all that bad....4 water changes and the water looks like very weak green tea (yum!), after a 24 hour soak.
Stay tuned!
