Biological Badlands...Mafia #8

[nmrsco]

as for dangerdoll, Im not so sure

 

[ewurm]

ewurm, Im wondering why you retracted your vote on KOTD so quickly after I voted? afraid of losing a teammate, perhaps?

I think we were typing at the same time. I saw your vote after I finished dealing with mine. KOTD is still on the hot list for me, but JohnLarson66 is evil.

 

[ZSandmann]

JohnLarson66 popped in to toss in his vote on Mee Mee to take out an innocent. Didn't say much before that. I am studying the voting patterns looking for someone who voted for mee mee, and then someone who voted for someone I believe is innocent including me. John's voting pattern in this short amount of time leads me to believe that he is voting to pick off innocents two weeks in a row.

I retract my vote on KOTD and vote to benetically test JohnLarson66

BTW, if I die, two innocents will have been killed in a row. As the vote stands, the only person on both trains is JohnLarson66. If and when my genetics are revealed, the townies have an easy target. Remember this post when I am gone, or the town is doomed.

I find it interesting you keep going after jl so hard when I've been against you more strongly than anyone. Since Day 1 of Day 1 in fact you've given me the heebie jeebies. And some of your posts seem much more precisely phrased when it really matters, where as, at other times you seem to have the newbie confusies going on. Who writes your scripts?

 

[ZSandmann]

Night fall for Day #2 will be at 8 PM EST, Wednesday 09/12
11/15 Votes - No votes from: GGF, KOTD, jpappy, DangerDoll
1-DeputyChief: bkw1982 (404)
4-ewurm: ZSandmann (399) johnlarson (541) Lady G (543) Plantling (574)
2-IceH2O: Hooked Newbie (407) Swayde (572)
1-KOTD: IceH2O (538) ewurm (549) nmrsco (581)
2-DangerDoll: DeputyChief (561) IceH2O (589)
1-johnlarson: ewurm (582)

 

[IceH2O]

It so pays to go back through the posts.Here I started doubting my feelings about LG. I think its the amount of posts. You get something in your head then theres so much going on it gets pushed to the corner.

He's new so I am trying to give him the benefit of doubt. Mike screwed up WAY worse than that and he was in fact innocent. Ewurm's voting has me more concerned than this statement. The fact he came in guns blazing so early on and then quickly jumped to another person without really offering any reasons of his own and then getting quiet has me more concerned. I am watching him closely, but not quite comfortable voting on him just yet.

I retract my vote on Jpappy even though I still find his very late start in the game highly suspicious. I vote to genetically test Guppy due to the fact he/she has not posted at all yet and the game has been going on for awhile now and if I am going to screw up and cast my vote on a fellow townie I'd rather it be someone who is no help at all than risk being manipulated into voting on a helpful townie by the evil scientists.

So we still have yet to hear from guppy? Well this is really bothering me, nmrsco is still bothering me too, only the two post in the begining but nothing since. Could just be a newb trying to figure out what they are suppose to do. I know in the sign up thread s/he was very reluctent to join in on this game, so I am trying to keep this in mind. If s/he would at least post something, anything even...guys I'm not sure what I am suppose to do, or because a few have asked...I am a s/he just to let us know. That would be very nice.

Well if guppy isn't even going to go ahead and go with him/her for day one genetically test them. I am really not to sure of anyone yet I have a few suspesions but not enough to really vote someone yet. So because of this and unless something drasticly changes I Vote to genetically test guppy I really hope s/he would post something!

Very valid point. I would move my vote, but to whom? I am not convinced Mee-mee is a bad guy and she's always been a great asset for the townies so I'd rather see more out of her before I make up my mind for sure. Ewurm is one of my suspects, but he's so new that it's hard to say for sure and after what all happend with Mike it makes me very hesitant to vote on him since he is actually playing. Nmrsco is gaining suspicion for so very few posts, I'd be most likely to move my vote to him if I decide to move it. Jpap I still have a high suspicion of, but he did come post and at least try and explain his absence and after knowing how bad it sucks to be lynched when you try to say you had RL stuff keeping you busy, I am gun-shy to vote on him.

Then there are CS and Ice who each have one vote on them. I've said before that Ice I am leaning to innocent because he's been very logical and reasonable, unlike last game where he was irrational, back peddling and seriously grasping at straws. CS does seem a bit off this game. I haven't decided if it's in a good way or a bad way yet, and if he IS a townie, I think it would be a bad thing to lose him so early on.

As for everyone else, I just don't have any proof or strong suspicions either way and certainly not anything to justify a vote on.

Do you guys really think it's such a bad idea to vote off guppy?

I agree ewurm is very suspicious and would like to see more from him/reasons/help..anything more than just voting on someone and half responding to post made about him, but I am trying to not read too much into him just yet as he is new and may really be trying to figure the game out. If on the other hand by night 2 nothing has changed with him I will most likely be putting more thought into him and voting his way.

MM, I do agree has played not quite right I do see suspicion in her and may in the end switch my vote over to her, she has been mainly coming out when her name is mentioned and that makes me nervous too.

My thoughts as far as guppy goes is if s/he isn't going to take the time to help the town at all not even acknowledge the game then what good is it to keep them around? Although if she does end up townie then that weakens the towns chances and I don't like that thought either. I was hoping by at least saying I was going to vote her/his way MAYBE along with the other votes going that way s/he would come out and at least say something. I don't remember anything in the sign-up post about him/her not being able to post much...does anyone know if s/he did say anything about that?

I retract my vote on Guppy and I vote to genetically test Nmrsco.

Nmrsco had been lurking at least 20 minutes, possibly even more and then when he was called out for not voting or posting anything he disappeared. The last time I saw something like that happen was DP in the werewolf game and he was in fact a bad guy.

Ok, apparently Gup is not going to come through tonight...I thought maybe just maybe with couple votes on he would show up. I don't remember who pointed out but it was pointed out that someone checked and he hasn't been on the board at all, my vote to him was just that a vote to try and get some kind of response so I RETRACT my vote to genetically test Guppy

I'd like to know what everyone's opinion is on Guppy please. Guppy has not posted at all yet and it is day 2 now. If she doesn't post before nightfall she will die a mysterious death. Should we just let nature take it's course in her case, or should we vote her out so as not to risk the possibility of losing 3 innocent townies in 1 night, if she happens to be on our side?

I'd also like to hear people's thoughts on Plantling. She has posted very few posts so far and seems to be laying very low. She was also mentioning CS and Mee-Mee both as being suspicious to her, although she did not seem convinced that either were bad and ended up voting for Ewurm. I'm curious to see how everyone else views her and hopefully get some more imput from her as well.

As you can see on Day 1 both LG and Sway wanted to vote off Guppy, going as far as to actually place votes. When the train didn't follow they went elsewhere. Start Day 2, look who is back at asking about taking out Guppy? Why even bother? It was a bad idea yesterday why would it be a better idea today when Guppy will be gone tonight anyway?

I vote to genetically test Iceh2o. The vote change back to Mee-Mee is really bothering me. Plus he attempted to cast suspicion on me early on because of a mistake in my list. He did drop it after I explained to him that it was a misunderstanding, and I let it go. Then he tried to defend Jpap by saying it was a holiday weekend, and again I let that go when he said he admitted he again made a mistake, because I understand mistakes can and do happen. Then he was the first person to point out that he'd changed his avatar and told everyone not to read anything into it, that rang a suspicious bell with me. Also, because of his vote on KoTD...I am not sure on KoTD's innoence, but his reason is "your wish is my command" I know there is probably more to it than that, but that's what he said when he voted for him. It also seems like he's trying kinda hard to defend Ewurm as well.

It just seems there are a lot of little things he's said that are just nagging at me and right now, he's my most likely suspect.

LOL I didn't vote for KOTD because he wished me too, maybe you missed the numerous posts of why I was leaning that way? You guys really need to refresh the forum while you're chatting in the team lair.

So the revised list:

DD- EVIL
KOTD- Heavily EVIL
Sway looking pretty evil
Lady G looking pretty evil

Guppy I'm betting is evil.

If they do in fact show as evil Sway and Lady G jump KOTD.

Nothing personal KOTD but I don't see you as a leader, without the Det role to throw around the town isn't going to follow your lead therefore you won't be able to trick us into voting out our own. You aren't as much a threat to the town as the other 3.

 

[IceH2O]

Just some thoughts:

The late voters for mee-mee were Ice and Lady G. I think we should also be thinking about why Charlie was tested by the evils. Both Ice and Lady G had run-in's w/Charlie.


Here Charlie is commenting on HN's post 5 and Ice's post 25.



Charlie's response to Lady G's post 169


Charlie votes for LG.

Does anyone think that Ice and/or Lady G would have motive for getting rid of Charlie?

One post is a run in? I do agree with you about Lady G though. Seems like her fingerprints are in a lot of questionable places.

 

[Lady G]

hey guys Im back. theres not too much to say yet, so Ill keep my mouth shut.


She? Im a guy, just to let you know

Yes, I mixed up the newbs, I already explained what happened there. Really I don't see how "mixing" up the newbs is a reason to suspect me?


First I have to point out, in a post following KOTD corrected himself he was innocent 3 games in a row. My point was you were saying you weren't sure that MM was evil because she was mafia last game...with this "theory" it is very likely that after you have been innocent for 3 games in a row it's highly unlikely for you to be innocent in this game. That was my point how did it not make since?


Something I agree with KOTD on!


Yes, I voted MM late this I have already explained.
As far as my "run" in with Charlie, I never said I was going to VOTE Charlie. All I did was question his game play this time around...as did many others, he went crazy on the fact I would even MENTION his name. This made myself and others wonder even more about him. Believe me I was just as surprised as you the Evils took him out!

Ice if you would of just looked up about 19 post you would see I already answered to that.

 

[ewurm]

I find it interesting you keep going after jl so hard when I've been against you more strongly than anyone. Since Day 1 of Day 1 in fact you've given me the heebie jeebies. And some of your posts seem much more precisely phrased when it really matters, where as, at other times you seem to have the newbie confusies going on. Who writes your scripts?

The fact that you're on my back is exactly why I don't suspect you at all. My posts are confusing you, which is interpreted as evil. I can understand that, I have had that happen, with Mee Mee in particular, and I was wrong. JL on the other hand has basically been on both trains, and I believe that it will result in the town collapsing early, as no one has singled him out yet except for me if I remember correctly. I expect to die tomorrow, and with that I think that the town will understand what I am talking about, but it may be too late.

 

[plantling]

One post is a run in? I do agree with you about Lady G though. Seems like her fingerprints are in a lot of questionable places.

I know, that argument is weak for you and I realized it when I was researching Charlie's posts. The only other interaction I saw was your post 179 listing pple and their post counts and you called Charlie out for not posting much, then he replied:

All i got to say is its hard to read the thread and watch football. Posting alot doesnt mean your innocent, in fact people who post alot but dont add much info are suspicious and trying to clog the thread, making it harder to find good info

Charlie wasn't that into the game and was even a bit suspicious to at least a few people, so I'm just trying to see why the evils would want him gone. Seems to me the evils would want to keep someone like that around. Unless he pinpointed a couple of them. Or they could be trying to make us think he pinpointed a couple of them. What do you think? What does everyone else think?

Also I was a bit suspicious of John Larson already, but Ewurm claims he thinks JL is evil because JL voted for Ewurm. Any thoughts on Ewurm or JL, Ice or anyone else?

 

[Lady G]

It so pays to go back through the posts.Here I started doubting my feelings about LG. I think its the amount of posts. You get something in your head then theres so much going on it gets pushed to the corner.



















As you can see on Day 1 both LG and Sway wanted to vote off Guppy, going as far as to actually place votes. When the train didn't follow they went elsewhere. Start Day 2, look who is back at asking about taking out Guppy? Why even bother? It was a bad idea yesterday why would it be a better idea today when Guppy will be gone tonight anyway?



So the revised list:

DD- EVIL
KOTD- Heavily EVIL
Sway looking pretty evil
Lady G looking pretty evil

Guppy I'm betting is evil.

If they do in fact show as evil Sway and Lady G jump KOTD.

Nothing personal KOTD but I don't see you as a leader, without the Det role to throw around the town isn't going to follow your lead therefore you won't be able to trick us into voting out our own. You aren't as much a threat to the town as the other 3.

Yes I did vote Guppy first I have already answered this too, I thought maybe he would post something if he saw his name bolded..that didn't happen, really I wasn't trying to start a "train" ppl had been questioning him and his absences quite a bit I just thought maybe if I took it one step further he would come out. Plus it really bothers me when ppl know this game takes your time, still sign up then don't post. I asked what others thought about voting him off because of it and pretty much everyone agreed it would be a bad idea and since I REALLY thought MM was evil as did MANY ppl I switched to her instead. Now I completely regret doing that b/c she was an innocent. As for me "following" you, you had nothing to do w/ my decision to switch it was just the way it happened this time around.
As far as KOTH I too feel he is evil...was thinking I may in the end switch to him also.
As far as Sway and DD...well there have been other games I thought (was SURE) they were evil and guess what I was wrong, after MM I am a little wary of who to vote.

I hope this helps you, if you have more questions just ask (I'm sure you will).:grinyes: