Chicken liver fed to my Oscar
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Lol. Naw, I don't like any of those huge diet plans. Besides that, I don't believe in "diets", but lifestyle changes. You just have to go back far enough to figure out what humans are SUPPOSED to be eating. You sure as heck don't see twinkies and other tastycakes growing on trees or bushes.
And, just to tie it into the fish (yeah, I'm going to pretend it all had something to do with fish...), carbs aren't the best for fish. So, for everyone who's complaining about how most fish aren't going to tackle a cow and eat it's heart or catch a chicken and dissect it to eat the heart and liver, think about what YOU'RE feeding your fish. At least the fish is getting the correct TYPE of food (ie, meat) instead of feeding your carnivores Hikari or whatever with rice and wheat in it. (Yeah, I can see a fish hopping up on land to search out a field of wheat...)
And, just to tie it into the fish (yeah, I'm going to pretend it all had something to do with fish...), carbs aren't the best for fish. So, for everyone who's complaining about how most fish aren't going to tackle a cow and eat it's heart or catch a chicken and dissect it to eat the heart and liver, think about what YOU'RE feeding your fish. At least the fish is getting the correct TYPE of food (ie, meat) instead of feeding your carnivores Hikari or whatever with rice and wheat in it. (Yeah, I can see a fish hopping up on land to search out a field of wheat...)
wickedcichlid
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Sorry Dave, I meant in an hour. lol.
I actually used to be a seal and was required to eat 200G of protein a day so I dont know what I was thinking when I wrote that. Brain fart I guess.
On the other hand, we arent raising our fish to be body Builders either. HaHa.
Thanks for pointing that out by the way.
If they can eat and survive the beefheart, and even THRIVE on it, why not? Seriously, as I've said, some betta breeders use beefheart (fed either solely or as the main diet) and this is actually growing healthier bettas than ones fed other random things (including fish based processed foods, frozen foods, etc). Don't shun something that works simply because it doesn't live in the same environment. If you think about it, NorthEastern USA residents "shouldn't" be eating bananas and certain other fruits because they don't grow up here, but, eating them can be beneficial to us anyways...
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Ahh, but at the base of it, Homo Sapiens is an african biotope critter (unless you're insane, in which case you might believe that we're from a Levantine biotope). Either way, we're surely not from a New-England biotope as a species.
*sigh*
The actual *biological*(read: chemical) reason for the concern deals with the melting points of the lipids contained in various animals. Warm-blooded mammals contain fats which can have melting points above what a fish will achieve in its body; They're cold-blooded. This fat will build up in the liver, as I understand.
I couldn't tell you how much or how fast, or whether or not this will cause a seroius issue. That's reality, though. It has nothing to do with "supposed to".
Alrighty.. the thread is about feeding chicken livers to your fish..
not human dietary intake or hormonal effects on humans from personal intake, or anything of that sort.
lets keep this thread on-topic, as an oscar-keeper myself (and the occasional hot-dog feeder) i am finding this debate quite interesting.
not human dietary intake or hormonal effects on humans from personal intake, or anything of that sort.
lets keep this thread on-topic, as an oscar-keeper myself (and the occasional hot-dog feeder) i am finding this debate quite interesting.
Tophat, I wanted to keep it "simple", as I could have gone way back into cavemen days, but some don't believe that...
Anyways, you're supposed to remove the fatty parts of the beefheart anyways. Can you dig up any research or proof that shows that beefheart or other land meat can kill over a period of time? If it's the whole cold-blooded issue, then what's going on with the cold-blooded animals that do eat red meat? The crocodiles and other reptiles are cold-blooded and eat red meat. You could get away with claiming that they have to sun themselves to digest (which they have to do no matter if they eat red meat or fish meat), but, then what about the sharks or even the piranhas? Sharks eat seals and such, and they're cold-blooded. Piranhas will eat small birds and other land meat that they can get and certain species will even eat carcasses of land animals if they happen to be in the water. Sure, these aren't oscars, but, you can't totally rule out land meat for oscars purely because it's, well, land meat.
Anyways, you're supposed to remove the fatty parts of the beefheart anyways. Can you dig up any research or proof that shows that beefheart or other land meat can kill over a period of time? If it's the whole cold-blooded issue, then what's going on with the cold-blooded animals that do eat red meat? The crocodiles and other reptiles are cold-blooded and eat red meat. You could get away with claiming that they have to sun themselves to digest (which they have to do no matter if they eat red meat or fish meat), but, then what about the sharks or even the piranhas? Sharks eat seals and such, and they're cold-blooded. Piranhas will eat small birds and other land meat that they can get and certain species will even eat carcasses of land animals if they happen to be in the water. Sure, these aren't oscars, but, you can't totally rule out land meat for oscars purely because it's, well, land meat.
you miss a very important fact.. each body uses food differently..some utilize protein better than others.. some carbs better.. some fish have a digestive system designed to consume protein and utilize it more efficiently.
others vegetation.
this is why there is no perfect food.
the issue is determining what diet works for each species.
others vegetation.
this is why there is no perfect food.
the issue is determining what diet works for each species.
