Blood meal is mostly nitrogen but I believe it contains boron, copper, phosphate, maganese, iron, etc. You should look at the bag when you return the wrong mix to see what is really in the blood meal. I think you should just start over on your tank since it is for shrimps. You don't want to kill off your shrimps then wonder what killed them.
did i use the right miracle grow organic? and shrimp.
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From the ingredients listed, I see nothing that I would be concerned about. Since it is more of a fertilizer, I wouldn't use it as a main substrate. There is no reason to toss everything except the Miracle Gro. A simple thorough rinse should be sufficient.
Don't take someones word for contents of a product you know nothing about. Look it up and failing that, go back to the store and read from a bag on the shelf. Salt is an over-abused commodity in the aquarium world and except for treatment, is unneeded.
Take your time to reasearch and learn BEFORE setting up a tank. List your ideas on a paper and then find out if it works before committing any money on it. 90% of aqaurium plants are nothing more than bog (swamp) plants that grow well in aquariums, with many being salt-sensitive. Bleaching plants is also unneeded unless removing chance parasites, free-loaders or bacteria. It needs to be done with care as bleach will kill most all of them. Have a reason to bleach other than someone claiming it removes ferts and copper (simple rinsing can do that). I bleach all incoming plants before putting them in my tanks. I use 19 parts water and 1 part bleach. I soak the plants in it for 3 minutes and then rinse in cold clean water. I make sure I get the bleach off every leaf and roots. A little bleach goes a very long way.
Never accept someone's advice if they can't tell you how or why to do it. I am NOT pointing a finger at anyone, but even here you can get bogus information.
Don't take someones word for contents of a product you know nothing about. Look it up and failing that, go back to the store and read from a bag on the shelf. Salt is an over-abused commodity in the aquarium world and except for treatment, is unneeded.
Take your time to reasearch and learn BEFORE setting up a tank. List your ideas on a paper and then find out if it works before committing any money on it. 90% of aqaurium plants are nothing more than bog (swamp) plants that grow well in aquariums, with many being salt-sensitive. Bleaching plants is also unneeded unless removing chance parasites, free-loaders or bacteria. It needs to be done with care as bleach will kill most all of them. Have a reason to bleach other than someone claiming it removes ferts and copper (simple rinsing can do that). I bleach all incoming plants before putting them in my tanks. I use 19 parts water and 1 part bleach. I soak the plants in it for 3 minutes and then rinse in cold clean water. I make sure I get the bleach off every leaf and roots. A little bleach goes a very long way.
Never accept someone's advice if they can't tell you how or why to do it. I am NOT pointing a finger at anyone, but even here you can get bogus information.
that says bone meal. this said blood meal is that the same?
so the plants are ok? the tank just needs to be rinsed along with the plants? and would using miracle grow organic plant food be ok?
the miracle grow organic plant food has
nitrogen.............7 %
1.8% is ammoniacal nitrogen
1.0% is water soluble nitrogen
4.2% is water insoluble nitrogen
available phosphate.....1%
soluble potash........2%
will any of that hurt shrimp?
nitrogen.............7 %
1.8% is ammoniacal nitrogen
1.0% is water soluble nitrogen
4.2% is water insoluble nitrogen
available phosphate.....1%
soluble potash........2%
will any of that hurt shrimp?
heres the list of metals in it
http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/FertDB/prodinfo.aspx?pname=2029
http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/FertDB/prodinfo.aspx?pname=2029
that was plant food here is potting soil. http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/FertDB/prodinfo.aspx?pname=2850 they contain the same metals just in different concentrations NO copper.
A thorough rinse should be more than sufficient. Nitrogen is one of the main ingredients plants need. Fish, with their waste create ammonia. Ammonia is converted to nitrites. Nitrites convert to Nitrates. Plants uptake nitrates as food. Nitrate % will fall in proportion to the amount the plants will uptake. Forgive me for not giving you all the chemical breakdowns and components but want you to understand the Readers Digest Version. As ammonia is converted to nitrites, your ammonia % will fall. Nitrates consume nitrites and they will go to 0. In a planted tank, it is no surprise to see parameters of 0,0,0. It means the cycle is working with the plants consuming all available nutrients. This is why a fertilizer is recommended. If you are showing numbers in any of the three, you don't have enough plants to compete against the amount of waste the fish produce. There is NOTHING wrong. You DO NOT need to plant heavily to absorb them. Just stay on top of your partial water changes, planted or not.
A very good commercial plant fertilizer is Scotts Osmocote. I use the indoor/outdoor formula. It's formula breakdown is 19-6-12. That means 19% Nitrogen, 6% Phosphate, 12% Potash. You will notice the middle number is the lowest of the three. You are looking for what you can get with the Phosphate being as low as possible since it also feeds many algeas. Of course you need to be careful of the % of all available but this should give you the idea. Anything with copper = dead inverts.
I don't know which one you have so I can't advise you. I use pea gravel, river gravel, sand, and many other things for substrate in my planted tanks. I have never used the plant food.
And yes, bone meal is fine for plants although it may raise the ph some.
A very good commercial plant fertilizer is Scotts Osmocote. I use the indoor/outdoor formula. It's formula breakdown is 19-6-12. That means 19% Nitrogen, 6% Phosphate, 12% Potash. You will notice the middle number is the lowest of the three. You are looking for what you can get with the Phosphate being as low as possible since it also feeds many algeas. Of course you need to be careful of the % of all available but this should give you the idea. Anything with copper = dead inverts.
I don't know which one you have so I can't advise you. I use pea gravel, river gravel, sand, and many other things for substrate in my planted tanks. I have never used the plant food.
And yes, bone meal is fine for plants although it may raise the ph some.
Sorry didn't notice. Blood and Bone meal are different. Here is blood...
http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/FertDB/prodinfo.aspx?pname=2024 (notice 12%N)
plant food = 7%N
potting soil = .1%N
That is a big difference. I wouldn't chance that. I can't speak to what even the potting soil would do to shrimp. To be honest there were things that scared me about the potting soil when I did it. I had some very hardy fish and still moved them to the tank based on my least favorites. I took a leap of faith that it wouldn't harm my fish, and I was very nervous. My fish are still all perfectly fine though so lucky me I guess.
I haven't really seen a lot about shrimp in dirt tanks, that would scare me a bit, but I seem to recall DustinFishTanks on Youtube may have had a tank or two with shrimp. It would help you a lot to check out his channel. He lives by the stuff and has some really good info.
http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/FertDB/prodinfo.aspx?pname=2024 (notice 12%N)
plant food = 7%N
potting soil = .1%N
That is a big difference. I wouldn't chance that. I can't speak to what even the potting soil would do to shrimp. To be honest there were things that scared me about the potting soil when I did it. I had some very hardy fish and still moved them to the tank based on my least favorites. I took a leap of faith that it wouldn't harm my fish, and I was very nervous. My fish are still all perfectly fine though so lucky me I guess.
I haven't really seen a lot about shrimp in dirt tanks, that would scare me a bit, but I seem to recall DustinFishTanks on Youtube may have had a tank or two with shrimp. It would help you a lot to check out his channel. He lives by the stuff and has some really good info.
ok so now i just need to know if miracle grow organic plant food will be ok. and this tank might turn out to be a CPO tank.
