Eco Bio Blocks.... test begins

Mgamer20o0 said:
keep us updated but i have a couple things to add..... tossing it in one tank and claiming it works i so dont agree with. the write would also do better if he got a real canister filter vs the hot mags and sponge filters. so no wonder why his tank isnt that clean. if he runs the micron filters they prob clogging fast.....

on the product some of their claims i have seen over and over and never seen any that live up to it. i think a good way is to set up 2 tanks right next to each other and try to keep both as close to the same as possible.

good luck
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Just quoting this post for record and evidence purposes...MG knows what i mean... :popcorn:

Please, do continue, did not mean to stop the conversation :grinyes:
 
DominionDesign said:
Hey DrV, I have never seen Gold Gouramis look that beautiful either. It could be breeding behavior but I would think that the dominant male would color up more so than the others, the fact that they all did it at the same time makes me wonder. If it is breeding behavior/coloration it could be brought on by changes in the water chemistry due to the grass bacillus. Have you noticed any behavioral changes? As to the pic quality, it looks fine. I have taken much worse! Some where you cant tell if its a fish or a satelite view of a small island.
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Thanks for the feedback Dominion! There's no doubt that the males are the real trophy winners, but the females have also showed the identical darkening/striping and fin coloration (just to a lesser degree). Re: behavior, I can not say any specimen has been acting in a significantly different manner. Everyone is eating voraciously (including my blind old-man ID shark) and is otherwise active. Gouramis spends most of the day tank-chasing and picking at the substrate, wood, etc. Loaches spend most of the day rummaging through the substrate or doing that odd vertical 'dance'. ID shark cruises as usual.

The Lake Tang. this morning is also showing some yellowing in the Gold Head comps (finally!)... they have been dirt brown as juveniles thus far even as they have grown slowly.

Again, all of the 'reports' here Re: tank progression using grass bacillus can be subjective reporting, at best. I can clearly not conduct an objective determination that specimen health has increased in its presence and can only relay my personal experience with isolated tanks. Nevertheless, I must say after ~2 weeks whatever is happening in these tanks is great to see!
 
hmmm, have you tried the blocks on shrimp?
 
1oooop said:
hmmm, have you tried the blocks on shrimp?
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You mean introducing the grass bacillus to determine effect on shrimp? No, I have not had the opportunity as I don't have any of the little guys in either of my tanks. I do have trapdoor snails in the SE Asian tank and they seem totally unaffected thus far.
 
DavidZ: Sounds very interesting, whats next?

I'll continue to post periodic updates at least through the 4 week minimum window recommended by the product. That should allow the good, bad, and ugly manifestations of the product to show through in my setups.

I have a scheduled filter maintenance coming up on the SE Asian this week. This will be first time I've cracked the filter since placing in the broken up bacillus stone; it should be interesting to see if they actually look any different.
 
Squawkbert said:
These blocks & what comes w/ the Ecomagic filter (Bailey Brothers show
Eco Magic Filtration System) are supposed to provide the correct porosity and at an adequate depth from the surfaces of the stones so that bacteria can get in there and live in nearly anoxic conditions. Under these conditions, they can break NO3 down, producing N2 and either oxygen or other oxygenated byproducts (not sure). This is pretty much the same as having liverock in a marine aquarium (except the bacteria species may be different - again, not certain).

In the case of the ecomagic filter, I suspect that the filter's supplied rock in not adequate to house enough bacteria to do NO3 conversion for a (for example) 55g tank. By specifying that their UG plates be mounted under a couple of inches of substrate (gravel), and running it as a low flow RUG, I think that they are counting on these NO3 digesting bacteria to colonize the tank bottom as well.

In theory, it looks pretty good. Having seen the Ecomagic web site, I can say that I have some unanswered questions...

I think the main thing is to try to establish whether or not the special rock media is actually allowing NO3 eating bacteria to survive and multiply, or if it merely acting in the same capacity as zeolite.

PS - nice to know someone here who has called in, Draal5 - I like the show despite the perpetual interruptions of the one brother over the other, and the inordinate praise of biowheels, but hey, they've got sponsors to consider.
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Hi guys,

I'm a newbie member at monster fishkeepers and i have recently gotten addicted to browsing fishkeeping sites trying to find out what kind of tank I want to set up next. I actually own an eco magic, haven't changed the water in it since i got it(the zero water change thing is what made me get a fishtank in the first place.) My aquarium remains stable and i have confidence in starting another aquarium.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159691
Here's the link to the post.

http://hiq-usa.com/installation.asp
Installation video.

If you were to do water changes with this system it would absolutely positively kick butt. I mean the eco bio block just sits there the eco magic actually provides water and air circulation. If you watch the installation video, the towers have 3 tubes at the bottom of them that act as a reverse flow undergravel filter. I personally think it's rather silly purchaseing a eco bio block when you can get a more advanced form of technology with the eco magic...

http://hiq-usa.com/zero_water_exchange_tech.asp This might explain it better then I can.
 
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fishynewbie12 said:
Hi guys,

I'm a newbie member at monster fishkeepers and i have recently gotten addicted to browsing fishkeeping sites trying to find out what kind of tank I want to set up next. I actually own an eco magic, haven't changed the water in it since i got it(the zero water change thing is what made me get a fishtank in the first place.) My aquarium remains stable and i have confidence in starting another aquarium.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159691
Here's the link to the post.

http://hiq-usa.com/installation.asp
Installation video.

If you were to do water changes with this system it would absolutely positively kick butt. I mean the eco bio block just sits there the eco magic actually provides water and air circulation. If you watch the installation video, the towers have 3 tubes at the bottom of them that act as a reverse flow undergravel filter. I personally think it's rather silly purchaseing a eco bio block when you can get a more advanced form of technology with the eco magic...

http://hiq-usa.com/zero_water_exchange_tech.asp This might explain it better then I can.
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great, it's always good to have input from more than one person! :) thanks for posting this up.
 
Np, J double R sorry for the language. Squawkbert I think I read somewhere that each filter tower contains like 14oz of those rocks. If that's what you meant by
I suspect that the filter's supplied rock in not adequate to house enough bacteria to do NO3 conversion for a (for example) 55g tank.
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It's two times more than the largest bio block.
 
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