GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I am so *$#!#%@# angry right now!!

LOL, my apologies. Most people in my neck of the woods are proud to be called such, making me forget how it is viewed out in the "real" world ;) Around here it's almost like a fashion statement...muddy jacked up truck, with Mossy Oak seat covers and camo apparel. An' I kin assurya lotsa theys swallered a gol'fish er two in ther day...
 
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Zaffy said:
Fish are made of food, they are eating food.

It's a bizarre circumstance, but I don't get all the rage.
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Seriously? How would you like to be a feeder fish, raised specifically for being eaten alive by other fish, and then end up being eaten by a person instead? That wouldn't feel very good, would it?
 
^ maybe rather that than veal. dunno...

platytudes said:
LOL, my apologies. Most people in my neck of the woods are proud to be called such, making me forget how it is viewed out in the "real" world ;) Around here it's almost like a fashion statement...muddy jacked up truck, with Mossy Oak seat covers and camo apparel. An' I kin assurya lotsa theys swallered a gol'fish er two in ther day...
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oh's isa undastandsis...

my pop has proudly dubbed himself the high tech redneck for example. he's got a serious case of "tim the toolman-itis" that he can't seem to shake. his dodge ram has a hemi and only gets washed with a power washer that's affixed to a trailer and super sized chamois'. he keeps that throaty monster (of course with a k&n air filter and flowmaster exhaust) lookin' sparkly and purty at all times. we're not your typical mullet sporting "what a effin redneck"s. i assure you noone in his motorcycle club or in his wifes church has ever swallowed a live feeder goldfish, though.

we are proud to be rednecks... even in times where those rednecks seem to get all the attention and define the term to the masses. it's unfortunate. however... and as this thread obviously illustrates... there are ignoramuses in every class and group of individuals.
 
Madcrawdad said:
Seriously? How would you like to be a feeder fish, raised specifically for being eaten alive by other fish, and then end up being eaten by a person instead? That wouldn't feel very good, would it?
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When you put it that way, I guess I would consult a lawyer, maybe there is some kind of breach of contract going on here. Perhaps the fish could consult a specialist on the constitution and go after the separation of church and state route.
 
saparation of church and state is only going to reinforce the church's right to eat goldfish (if that's what their after) or in this case, do something stupid for fun.

Also, on a side note, I've watched our roe tech on my sack roe herring fishing boat pop open a live herring and squeeze the eggs into her mouth. That particular year we had an absolutely pandemic parasite outbreak and there were worms in every fish we caught (manageable in processing and don't worry all our fish go to japan) BUT SHE WAS EATING THEM LIVE. This chick was comical to me too, because she was a "vegan" (iknowright?) Buddhist (believed in reincarnation) who actually caused such a stink when we wanted to go grizzly bear hunting (with tags and everything) that we gave up the hunt. (bear tags cost hundreds of dollars to get and you can only get one a year.) I found it ridiculous that she could feel all of this empathy for a bear because it was fuzzy but none for a fish that she'd break wide open while alive to eat its roe, and throw the still-live carcass overboard...you can totally squeeze the roe out of a ripe herring without breaking the fish. Not to mention the eating live internal parasites part, but that's a different story. MORAL: Stupidity comes in all shapes and sizes, but is prevalent in all people, best response to it? Laugh when they have to worm themselves.

EDIT: DISCLAIMER: This is not meant in any way to be a bash on Buddhists, women, or vegans I know and respect many vegans who really do what they believe they are morally obligated to do. I am also aware that the anecdote stated above in no way reflects on women, Buddhists, or vegans as a whole. I'm simply stating that many people do very poorly thought out things that are very contrary to the beliefs they adhere to.
 
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Wow, that was some story Fozzy! :( Hunting is a sport, I don't like it...but as long as hunters are following the rules, I don't have a problem with it beyond finding it distasteful, personally. Guns and blood and dead adorable (sometimes) animals...do not want.

ATVs are tearing up the forest around here, causing a lot more harm than the hunters.
 
I hate hunting as a sport actually. I eat, skin, tan, and use every single ounce of a kill that isn't damaged by the bullet. I WILL NOT shoot something that i cannot pack out and consume before it goes bad. I simply believe that it is unethical to eat meat if you're not willing to go through the steps of actually looking an animal in the face, killing it, gutting it, butchering it, and cooking it. I think the worst thing we do in this country is think that hamburger comes from McDonalds. I cherish and respect all of the animal species I've hunted, and by hunting them one comes to truly understand and respect them. I've fell in love with deer when i was 8 and took my first one, ever since I've deplored the destruction of their habitats and hate to see one splatted on the side of the road. But deer are also food, (nutritious and tasty too) and sometimes I will harvest one, with as clean of a shot as I can, and diligently (i never let a wounded animal get lost). Look at the american natives, they cohabitated with the creatures in their environment in a manner that would have allowed the nearly indefinite existence of both prey and predator (human) species, but they did carefully and cleanly support their own existence by harvesting game. From squirrels, to fish, to deer, to...pretty much anything that moved.

Let me put it this way, from my ethical perspective I'd say that a person who chooses to eat meat from a production facility (where animals are never allowed to experience free existence) and is unable to watch a cow get slaughtered and butchered, or worse, doesn't even know what goes on, is much less ethical than the careful (and always on foot) hunter who takes clean shots, packs out their game, cares for the meat and hide appropriately, and then utilizes the kill.
 
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I hate hunting as a sport actually. I eat, skin, tan, and use every single ounce of a kill that isn't damaged by the bullet. I WILL NOT shoot something that i cannot pack out and consume before it goes bad. I simply believe that it is unethical to eat meat if you're not willing to go through the steps of actually looking an animal in the face, killing it, gutting it, butchering it, and cooking it. I think the worst thing we do in this country is think that hamburger comes from McDonalds. I cherish and respect all of the animal species I've hunted, and by hunting them one comes to truly understand and respect them. I've fell in love with deer when i was 8 and took my first one, ever since I've deplored the destruction of their habitats and hate to see one splatted on the side of the road. But deer are also food, (nutritious and tasty too) and sometimes I will harvest one, with as clean of a shot as I can, and diligently (i never let a wounded animal get lost). Look at the american natives, they cohabitated with the creatures in their environment in a manner that would have allowed the nearly indefinite existence of both prey and predator (human) species, but they did carefully and cleanly support their own existence by harvesting game. From squirrels, to fish, to deer, to...pretty much anything that moved.

Let me put it this way, from my ethical perspective I'd say that a person who chooses to eat meat from a production facility (where animals are never allowed to experience free existence) and is unable to watch a cow get slaughtered and butchered, or worse, doesn't even know what goes on, is much less ethical than the careful (and always on foot) hunter who takes clean shots, packs out their game, cares for the meat and hide appropriately, and then utilizes the kill.
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+1

Very well put.
 
There are many more important things to worry about than this. Fish are food at least as much as friends, and I would wager that the majority of members here have done things to fish far more cruel and lingering than swalllowing them alive.
 
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