genetically enhanced fish

"Plants, though, are another story. We have only begun the possibilities of plants. Everything from desert reclamation to feeding starving nations may be possible in the near future."

Sorry but i have to correct you they have been doing it to plants for the past 50-60 years. If they didnt we would have one fith of the volume of food availible to us.
 
another one to think about is Stem cell research.it can make people walk again (has been proven in mice and other animals). the practice is banned on humans due to its the next step to clone people.

Would you want? allow the practice and ban cloning so you can walk again or seal it shut and forget about it.
 
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I just wanted to say thats its refreshing to know that there are other intelligent people out there who can carry on an intelligent conversation on a controversial issue. I was beginning to think I was the only one out there. So, anyone of you an attractive young woman in need of a soul mate?? :)
 
kw0me said:
another one to think about is Stem cell research.it can make people walk again (has been proven in mice and other animals). the practice is banned on humans due to its the next step to clone people.

Would you want? allow the practice and ban cloning so you can walk again or seal it shut and forget about it.
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Stem cell research, in any of its forms, is not banned. At least not in the U.S.
 
ct-death said:
Well put.

As for the dangers of genetically modified organisms, it is simply not any greater than breeding the hard way - Again it just makes the process "faster".

And as for humans doing this; we are affecting every living thing on this planet whetehr we like it or not. Those creatures are adapting with or without our help. Does the level of direct involvement and/or the pace at which change is caused rrally matter? the end is the same.

And let's not forget Nature's own blunders throughout our natural history!!! Exctinctions and mass die offs due to the arrival of new species like we have never seen before has already occured multiple times already! I'm going to get the names wrong, but the Jurasic and the Crustacious Periods. Now those were Dog-Eat-Dog worlds!

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not for the manipulation of an organism for the simply reason of providing me with some personal pleasure (ie. new fish species), I just don't think that's right (or to use the word: ethical). Again, "If the alteration is not one that causes stress (whether it be pain or otherwise), or the potential to be used in a harmful way (i.e. creating a super disease) - then I am okay with it." Others feel differently, and you now what - That's OKAY!

However, it really isn't any more or less of an issue as it has always been in the past, and that's my point. If the arguement is about the dangers, there really is none (ethically, yes, you have a position). Of course there will always be unknowns and possible dangers.

...but hey I can create a Super Bee from a simple Honey Bee and a small African Bee, what can be the harm in only one generation!?!?! :eek:
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interesting take..however, science has still not determined what actually killed the dinosaurs.(what they are debating this?) ;)

compared to the dinosaurs humans have only been on the earth one tick of a clock..

I wouldn't exactly call this a 'blunder of natural history"
especially if you consider one theory (large object impacting the earth changing the environment)...

my personal take on gentically modifying anything....we are still waiting to see what the actual impact is really going to be.

still a very intersting read.

personally I don't care for modified fish.
 
star_rider said:
I wouldn't exactly call this a 'blunder of natural history"
especially if you consider one theory (large object impacting the earth changing the environment)...
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I was actually trying to specifically avoid the whole asteriod/volcano theory and time, but was rather just hoping to keep it to the greatest period in our earth's living history for mass extinctinctions and the creation of new species and that this is a "Blunder" only in that in order for change there is suffering in the natural world (I find this perfectly normal; I just liked the word "blunder" to make a point). ;)

Again just going to the point that chnage is normal, and we aren;t doing anything that hasn't happend in nature already thousands, or rather millions of times already. The Killer Bee example is just to further show that even with "normal" or more conventional means "we" and thus nature can achieve the remarkable in just 1 generation
 
spirals said:
One of my neighbors has some genetically altered danios (bright pink and neon green) which just look strange to me. Even more bizarre are her tattooed fish, yeah...tattooed.
they are little balloon belly mollies which have stripes (pink and purple), blue stars, and little dots tattooed onto them.
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Fish with words on them are out now....will not be long until they are tattooed with adverts.
 
Here's a thought... would you by genetically modified fish that have no different external appearance, but have been modified to either
A) secretes an enzyme that breaks down ammonia, Nitrates, and/or nitrites
B) secretes an enzyme that attacks chlorophyll (no live plants, but no algae either)
C) secretes urea as pellets that do not dissolve in water instead of as a liquid.

These are a couple of GM mods that might be beneficial to hobbiests.
 
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